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No, it was after it left the mint. It's worn and granulated, probably from being in the ground.

Well, I am a little taken back by such vitriol over a question. I do have another coin struck like this that is newer so was hard to tell sometimes. Thank you for your input. And for those who don't grasp the forum name "Newbee" and want to belittle or discourage whatever questions, maybe find another forum and hobby. If your not here to help, then you probably need to put your time and effort into something else. Like a therapist or something else to feel better about yourself. People that hurt people or try to make them feel belittled or stupid have some serious insecurities themselves. 
Me, myself have none of those issues and don't take your issues personally. I will continue to ask stupid questions, and I appreciate you kind people out their with your patience and kindness. God Bless to ALL

You manage to turn an abraded 1958 wheatie into a reason to hurt someone who was doing you no harm. Wow. Coins, weaponized.
I think what you should do is indict not just her but her whole f-bombing generation (which you are not even f-bombing able to know because I'm not aware her birth certificate is available here), simply because something about the way she posed an innocent and minor question offended your sense of how words should be used. In other news, did you see anyone drop a gum wrapper today that you feel should be drawn and quartered for that? Good gods. That guy didn't stop for a stop sign; got your RPG-7 handy?
Hey, folks, someone seems to have accidentally used a word in a way Kurt doesn't like. Shall we go on an anti-generational rampage? (Which generation?) Where the hell is all our musketry for a firing squad? I thought sure we had gallows in the warehouse.

Nope. I'd say that looks like die deterioration doubling from the pattern. No premium applies.

I use a regular pliers and am very careful. Here's the secret: do not align the grooves of the pliers with the staples. Go at an angle, like 45 degrees. Give room for the tips to squeeze out from under and dig into the cardboard.

Nice to have another of the eh-Team on board here. I didn't know we had any; 'Stang never mentioned, or I never saw. Tough life impacts you had there, man, hang in.
I like pre-Confederation stuff especially, and I appreciate the straightforwardness of the RCNA grading system. The Charlton book is a wonder. I had to get one in order to help some good friends up in Trail get their folks' collection squared away and enjoyed the learning.
I don't know if you care at all about registry sets, but if you do, evidently one of our local collectors has like the champion Canadian cent set. I can ask for details if you'd be interested in seeing it.

Might not have happened that way. I've seen 1950s wheaties that were quite obviously plated and looked very much like this one. Sometimes kids steal from Bampaw's collection, or something else happens to dump them into circulation that was not the intent of whoever plated it (whatever that intent might even have been). I still think it's replated, but I don't really care about the end result.

Opinion: spend.

Cool fakes, bro.

Ours lived in the dies. We served the Alaska fishing fleet out of Ballard, and the customer would pay a die charge for which we would construct a die of the correct size. The punches were part of the die and never came out again until the steel rule got so worn we had to re-rule the die. I never saw them used loose.

This forum is not your personal venue for hawking your coins. The marketplace forum is the place to sell coins. Please stop spamming this forum.
And, while I have your attention, intruding on other posters threads, trying to sell them coins for which they are not looking, is in poor taste.

You can continue to play devil's advocate or "defender of the downtrodden" all you like, but, rest assured, the majority of the members of this forum strongly disapprove of this guy's tactics, especially since he's been repeatedly called out, and continues to do it. It isn't "harmless conduct." It's the forum equivalent of spam phone calls and junk mail, and we don't like it.

Look at those chips around the rim. Now I'm sure it's replated.

I read as much of it as I could stand.

You're missing the whole point. Not NGC's, which is to promote its services; the point of coin collecting, which is to learn, grow your understanding, improve at identifying and evaluating coins.
Nobody here who doesn't work for NGC cares if you send anything in for grading. I never have. No one cares about that either. And even NGC won't push you.
You get told to send things in for grading as a throwing up of the hands to an obstinate person who refuses to learn. If you were sensible, you'd see it for what it is. If you post a parking lot coin, or something else that's obviously abused, people will tell you so. If you keep arguing with them, they'll eventually say "okay, bucko, if you think it's so rare and valuable, put your money where your keyboard is." They aren't trying to raise business for NGC. They're politely telling you you're an insufficiently_intellectual_person and that you can go attempt_self_impregnation. If you get to that point, you've already flashed nalgas.
No one is having fun telling you your stuff is worthless. They do that as an annoying duty to help people who, in essence, never bother to read anything else that was posted and who think they know better than experts (and some of our members are just that). They even try to be polite about it, until you argue with them. Then they get blunt and tell you "go ahead and send it in."
All of this is volunteer help given to you as a freebie and in the service of helping you to learn. Gratitude is a thing. You might try that, instead of ranting about what big meanies the volunteers are.
It sounds like you expected a trophy just for posting. We don't offer those. You won't even get hazed provided you at least accept the free guidance shared with you. But if you insist on validation that defies all reason, well, you're hosed on that one. You need to find a fluffier forum that won't bruise your delicate feelings and considers itself obligated to validate any statement no matter how lacking in sense it might be. If you were raised thinking all opinions were equal and all deserved respect, welcome to reality. They aren't; they don't.
So, basically, you're writing your hobby suicide note because you were told the truth with the bark on, and now you're weeping openly. Very good. Do by all means stop collecting, and come back when you mature enough to respect when people know things you don't.

You're missing the whole point. Not NGC's, which is to promote its services; the point of coin collecting, which is to learn, grow your understanding, improve at identifying and evaluating coins.
Nobody here who doesn't work for NGC cares if you send anything in for grading. I never have. No one cares about that either. And even NGC won't push you.
You get told to send things in for grading as a throwing up of the hands to an obstinate person who refuses to learn. If you were sensible, you'd see it for what it is. If you post a parking lot coin, or something else that's obviously abused, people will tell you so. If you keep arguing with them, they'll eventually say "okay, bucko, if you think it's so rare and valuable, put your money where your keyboard is." They aren't trying to raise business for NGC. They're politely telling you you're an insufficiently_intellectual_person and that you can go attempt_self_impregnation. If you get to that point, you've already flashed nalgas.
No one is having fun telling you your stuff is worthless. They do that as an annoying duty to help people who, in essence, never bother to read anything else that was posted and who think they know better than experts (and some of our members are just that). They even try to be polite about it, until you argue with them. Then they get blunt and tell you "go ahead and send it in."
All of this is volunteer help given to you as a freebie and in the service of helping you to learn. Gratitude is a thing. You might try that, instead of ranting about what big meanies the volunteers are.
It sounds like you expected a trophy just for posting. We don't offer those. You won't even get hazed provided you at least accept the free guidance shared with you. But if you insist on validation that defies all reason, well, you're hosed on that one. You need to find a fluffier forum that won't bruise your delicate feelings and considers itself obligated to validate any statement no matter how lacking in sense it might be. If you were raised thinking all opinions were equal and all deserved respect, welcome to reality. They aren't; they don't.
So, basically, you're writing your hobby suicide note because you were told the truth with the bark on, and now you're weeping openly. Very good. Do by all means stop collecting, and come back when you mature enough to respect when people know things you don't.

You're missing the whole point. Not NGC's, which is to promote its services; the point of coin collecting, which is to learn, grow your understanding, improve at identifying and evaluating coins.
Nobody here who doesn't work for NGC cares if you send anything in for grading. I never have. No one cares about that either. And even NGC won't push you.
You get told to send things in for grading as a throwing up of the hands to an obstinate person who refuses to learn. If you were sensible, you'd see it for what it is. If you post a parking lot coin, or something else that's obviously abused, people will tell you so. If you keep arguing with them, they'll eventually say "okay, bucko, if you think it's so rare and valuable, put your money where your keyboard is." They aren't trying to raise business for NGC. They're politely telling you you're an insufficiently_intellectual_person and that you can go attempt_self_impregnation. If you get to that point, you've already flashed nalgas.
No one is having fun telling you your stuff is worthless. They do that as an annoying duty to help people who, in essence, never bother to read anything else that was posted and who think they know better than experts (and some of our members are just that). They even try to be polite about it, until you argue with them. Then they get blunt and tell you "go ahead and send it in."
All of this is volunteer help given to you as a freebie and in the service of helping you to learn. Gratitude is a thing. You might try that, instead of ranting about what big meanies the volunteers are.
It sounds like you expected a trophy just for posting. We don't offer those. You won't even get hazed provided you at least accept the free guidance shared with you. But if you insist on validation that defies all reason, well, you're hosed on that one. You need to find a fluffier forum that won't bruise your delicate feelings and considers itself obligated to validate any statement no matter how lacking in sense it might be. If you were raised thinking all opinions were equal and all deserved respect, welcome to reality. They aren't; they don't.
So, basically, you're writing your hobby suicide note because you were told the truth with the bark on, and now you're weeping openly. Very good. Do by all means stop collecting, and come back when you mature enough to respect when people know things you don't.

No.

When I want to figure out a grade from MS-60-70, I go to my ANA Grading Standards book. It's pretty thorough. However, if you want to really kill it, there's another way. It'll take years, but so does much learning in the hobby.
There's a mag called Coin World that has two things in it I care about: a price guide and a grading article. While the price guide is pretty much high retail, I save them over time and put them in binders. By now I have a handy price history reference as a result. It takes little effort and requires minimal space. But the germane thing here is the grading articles. Every issue includes a guide to grading a specific coin type and grade range, with blown-up color photos just like we ask people to post here, and detailed discussion of why the coin achieved or was relegated to a given grade. So you might see one on IHPs from FA-2 to AU-58, which might have AG-3, G-6, VG-8, F-15, VF-20, EF-45, AU-50, AU-55, and AU-58 examples--and where the author, who was not always the grader (many were slabbed) agrees or disagrees with the grade it got. I keep these articles, sort them by coin type, and also put them in binders. After about five years the mag starts to repeat its coverage, but always with a new take, so I hang onto them. If I want to fuss out a grade, I've got some very expert guidance to supplement what the ANA says. Eleven or twelve years into it, I'm starting to see some triple coverage.

This has got to be a candidate for the 2024 Most Wasted Time And Typing On The NGC Boards.

This has got to be a candidate for the 2024 Most Wasted Time And Typing On The NGC Boards.

If they have them at Amazon, please let me know.

The issue there is that for the least expensive/learning items--late Imperial bronzes from AE2-AE4--certified examples that are no more expensive than the $8-15 for which one can normally buy them would be quite elusive. You'd probably end up coughing up $40-50 for a coin that couldn't be worth $40 no matter what shape it was in. For that cost, the OP could obtain several pieces and start the attribution learning curve. Which would be needed in any case, because when you look at a slabbed ancient, you often don't have a catalog number or any full description of the text. What good is it to pay that much for what isn't even a complete attribution?
So if the OP were to go that route, it probably means spending triple and obtaining in return only a pretty piece of plastic plus at least the emperor, a grade, and rough era--information that's just the beginning of proper attribution, and would be available from reputable sellers anyway. I can't see that as worth $40 extra. The emperor is easy enough to discern from a halfway readable obverse legend. The era, obviously, is tethered to the emperor (who might in fact be an empress). The best hope would be that someone screwed up and sent it in, or spent too much for the slab, and has decided to bite the heavy loss bullet and sell it for what it's really worth rather than what they paid. That's a lot of dumbth to hope for.
If the OP were into aurei, or something else commonly faked, that'd be different. Even for spendy silver, particularly of rare emperors, it would make sense to go the slab route. But the biggest takeaway there is to buy from reputable sellers, of which I can recommend several with whom I do not hesitate to spend money. And I have never yet spent my own money on a slabbed ancient. I probably never will.

Small steps are wise; then try and start with one era or two. Cheapest are bronzes from 192-410 CE; figure to spend $8-15 depending on condition. Try and look them up on Wildwinds. If you are confused, post them here and ask for help. Adhere to the posting guidelines: weight and diameter, sharp cropped photos of both sides, properly rotated.
A word on posting pictures and supporting info: Some people here are nice about omitting or skipping some of those details; I am cruel about it, and will simply ignore the post even if I could still answer the question. To me, it's basic respect to present the coin such that it makes helping you as easy as possible; do so, and I'll spend a lot of time giving you hints so you can run back to WW and see what you learn.
(Look at this forum any day for a bunch of examples of how to do it wrong. I find it incredible that someone would waltz in, want help, but refuse to participate in the help. It's like the Prince's car's stuck and two people show up to assist but need help pushing, and the Prince refuses because the Prince is entitled to the help of lower minions. Truth told, I block them, to remind myself never to bother helping them. Don't be like them. I can deal with lack of knowledge, but willful/lazy disrespect is another story. We can tell when people are at least trying.)
When you get sick to death of Constantine and Constantius, you'll know you've done a pretty deep dive on that era. The knowledge will somewhat transfer to silver and billon coinage as well, such as Diocletian's silver-washed folles.