Oldhoopster Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Been too much nonsense and irrelevant posts, and other than the research posts from RWB, there just seems to be too much worthless junk to wade through. I'm sure Ricky Rooster can step right up and provide accurate info to the new collectors who really want to learn (at least the few of them that aren't trolls or alt users). I'm sure his posts will continue to be as useful as always. Best of luck to you all Outta here Crawtomatic, JT2, Walkerfan and 3 others 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Bob Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 (edited) I hate to see you go, but I do understand not wanting to deal with all of the nonsense posts and trolling. I just wonder if things are any better on any of the other chat boards. All the best to you. Edited November 7, 2022 by Just Bob zadok 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus Arrius Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 (edited) On 11/6/2022 at 9:15 PM, Oldhoopster said: Outta here I believe it to be the height of chutzpah (buoyed by not a little bit of entitlement burnished by long-term membership) to post a non-numismatic topic [rather shabbily] entitled, "Outta Here." You may recall I, as well as the website coordinator, urged you to avail yourself of the "ignore" function, which you adamantly refused to do. Now a comment I directed to a non-member, via a reply to your post alluding to another member, has ruffled the feathers of all. If you wish to communicate your displeasure, please do so on the OFF-TOPIC thread, or PM me. By emergency consensus, I am withdrawing two posts, made in harmless jest, immediately. I request those who've prematurely fled the premises, to re-consider their positions and continue to provide the membership with invaluable postings in furtherance of the hobby's body of knowledge. Edited November 7, 2022 by Quintus Arrius Routine die polishing: correct misspelling. The Neophyte Numismatist 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus Arrius Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 On 11/6/2022 at 9:34 PM, Just Bob said: ....I just wonder if things are any better on any of the other chat boards.... They are not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VKurtB Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 On 11/6/2022 at 8:47 PM, Quintus Arrius said: chutzpah (buoyed by not a little bit of entitlement burnished by long-term membership) The gentleman has hit the proverbial nail SQUARELY upon its head. The Neophyte Numismatist and Quintus Arrius 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Neophyte Numismatist Posted November 7, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 7, 2022 @Oldhoopster I wish you all the best. Your points are valid. Threads here have become much less numismatic, and even those that start out that way are quickly steered into the rocks. The ignore function does not stop the trolls, clowns and curmudgeons from ruining the threads (even if you ignore them). The value has eroded significantly. Quintus Arrius, Crawtomatic and Coinbuf 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Hoghead515 Posted November 7, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 7, 2022 Wishing the best for you Hoopster. It was a pleasure getting to know you and learn from your post. JT2, AdamWL, Quintus Arrius and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VKurtB Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 On 11/6/2022 at 9:16 PM, Hoghead515 said: Wishing the best for you Hoopster. It was a pleasure getting to know you and learn from your post. You can find him, and ldhair, all you want on CoinTalk. Trust me, it’s no better than here, maybe worse. But they have their own private “most favored posters” status that benefits people who threaten to leave here. The Neophyte Numismatist and Quintus Arrius 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coinbuf Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Sorry to see you leave, this forum has devolved over the past year or two into a troll fest and home for mudslinging alts. I find myself spending far less time here now, there are better forums for those who wish to learn and discuss coins to spend time at. All the best to you @Oldhoopster, you did some good while you were here. Quintus Arrius and The Neophyte Numismatist 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l.cutler Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Sorry to see you go, but can understand. This forum seems to draw more of it's share of trolls than the others. I signed off and left for a while, but came back and reluctantly started using the ignore feature. Not my favorite thing to do, but does make it more tolerable. The Neophyte Numismatist and Quintus Arrius 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MarkFeld Posted November 7, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 7, 2022 On 11/6/2022 at 8:15 PM, Oldhoopster said: Been too much nonsense and irrelevant posts, and other than the research posts from RWB, there just seems to be too much worthless junk to wade through. I'm sure Ricky Rooster can step right up and provide accurate info to the new collectors who really want to learn (at least the few of them that aren't trolls or alt users). I'm sure his posts will continue to be as useful as always. Best of luck to you all Outta here I’m sorry to hear that, but can certainly understand. To those who say trolling is no worse here than on other forums - there seem to be fewer active posters on this forum, so a small group of trolls can account for a larger percentage of the posts and thus, be more disruptive. Quintus Arrius, AdamWL, The Neophyte Numismatist and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Fenntucky Mike Posted November 7, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 7, 2022 Your presence will be sorely missed. I hope at some point you will reconsider your stance and drop in from time to time. Coinbuf, Quintus Arrius and The Neophyte Numismatist 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Tatum Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 (edited) I apologize for my silly comment at the end of the ‘55 DD thread. I came to ask about an eBay coin this morning, and wonder, now, how much I should pester you all. Straws break backs. I ain’t innocent here. Serious threads sometimes end with banter and that chat with other readers puts me at ease among strangers. I don’t mess with serious discussions, until they break down. I went to forum refugees. My introduction thread for them is a week-long blog as I wait for approval. I learn a lot here, lurking. I prefer to buy from regular contributors to forums on eBay. Edited November 7, 2022 by Ray Tatum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Neophyte Numismatist Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 On 11/6/2022 at 10:23 PM, VKurtB said: You can find him, and ldhair, all you want on CoinTalk. Trust me, it’s no better than here, maybe worse. But they have their own private “most favored posters” status that benefits people who threaten to leave here. Do you really think that this is about getting on a list of favored posters? Your lack of self awareness is laughable. Coinbuf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ldhair Posted November 7, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 7, 2022 I wish all here the best. My 20 years here have been a blast. Thank you to those that made it fun. I'll still be posting in the Follow the lead picture post thread. It's been an honor to have the thread pinned to the top for all these years. Thank you Dena. Quintus Arrius, MarkFeld, Walkerfan and 3 others 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsshog40 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 I hate to see people leave because of others nonsense. This forum was a great place to be back in the day. It has slowed considerably over the years which I think makes the meaningless threads pop out more. You still have the nonsense over at CT and ATS but it doesn't seem as overwhelming as they have a lot more posters. My collecting has slowed considerably but I still visit the forums to see what interests me. I've gotten to where I just ignore or don't even open threads that don't interest me or have titles that indicate nothing meaningful. I also take into consideration that we have new generations coming up that rely on google for their education. It's becoming the sign of the times. Us old timers just need to keep hope that we can help some and just ignore the one's that don't want to listen! Walkerfan and robec1347 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWB Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Sadly, the situation is no better elsewhere. The mass hysteria passively called "social media" has concentrated lies and self-interest to a point where many people cannot separate lies and greed from simple truth. I certainly wish Oldhoopster well, and hope his medical issues will revert to something benign and manageable. RWB VKurtB and rrantique 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tj96 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 For the most part, the guys ATS are logical, reasonable, know how to intelligently debate, have a sense of self awareness and don't take themselves to seriously. Not as many Tin foil hats over there. That is if you haven't already been put on a permanent vacation! Quintus Arrius 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VKurtB Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 (edited) On 11/7/2022 at 6:22 AM, The Neophyte Numismatist said: Do you really think that this is about getting on a list of favored posters? Your lack of self awareness is laughable. No, I think it is the “old guard” who dragged this site down to the point where it was known as Sleepy Hollow, attempting to throw their weight around. I fight back when faced with that umm, err, poo. My posts have THE MOST “likes” in the past year, and the third most all time. Who’s lacking awareness? Edited November 7, 2022 by VKurtB robec1347 and Quintus Arrius 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VKurtB Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 (edited) On 11/7/2022 at 9:39 AM, RWB said: Sadly, the situation is no better elsewhere. The mass hysteria passively called "social media" has concentrated lies and self-interest to a point where many people cannot separate lies and greed from simple truth. I certainly wish Oldhoopster well, and hope his medical issues will revert to something benign and manageable. RWB I have had the unfortunate experience of facing darned serious (threatening end of life THREE times now) medical issues. It does have a tendency to lower one’s appetite for nonsense. Been there, done that. But the place where self-awareness is MOST LACKING here is nobody cares that Quintus is also facing serious medical issues. He deals with it differently. His coping mechanism is irreverent humor, as is mine. Have you ever seen that online “test” where you are shown an item and you have to choose from two words that you call that item (soda vs. pop is one example) and the test will tell you where you grew up? Well I grew up in Reading, Pennsylvania, about 50 miles NW of Philly. The test determined I grew up in New York City. That’s how close the two cultures are. A mere 25 miles south of Reading MOST of the answers are different. What’s okay humor in Reading is completely inappropriate 25 miles away. IT’S ALL CULTURAL. Edited November 7, 2022 by VKurtB Quintus Arrius 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post VKurtB Posted November 7, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 7, 2022 On 11/7/2022 at 9:39 AM, RWB said: The mass hysteria passively called "social media" Do you have ANY IDEA how much that is nearly my personal mantra? Social media is why we no longer function as a nation. It is the proximate cause. Hoghead515, Quintus Arrius, AdamWL and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Neophyte Numismatist Posted November 7, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 7, 2022 (edited) On 11/7/2022 at 12:14 PM, VKurtB said: No, I think it is the “old guard” who dragged this site down to the point where it was known as Sleepy Hollow, attempting to throw their weight around. I fight back when faced with that umm, err, poo. My posts have THE MOST “likes” in the past year, and the third most all time. Who’s lacking awareness? This response is so on brand for you. The extremely braggadocios, extremely useless bravado. Tell me more of your awesomeness. Maybe you can tell the one again about: Your son's "la te da" school with Taylor Swift (because it's no where close to the top Public School district in PA - I think it is ranked 58). Or maybe you can talk more about your super high level job in the PA Commonwealth elections (as an analyst), but make it sound bigger - go on! Be the expert AE Bowers... want to talk about how you squandered that one? (probably not) How about your awesome coin collection that never gets posted? The, "I strive only for perfection" one. Don't forget to put others down. Don't forget your awards... gotta have those in there. Gotta talk the Zerbe and ANA stuff... After reciting your resume, be sure to tear everyone down. Go-on... be the legend that is in your own mind. Be ruthless, because that's tough and awesome. You will get tons of respect. Even if you don't, you can continue to pretend, and make it "all about you." You are a troll... very little more. You have numismatic knowledge, but you would rather be a complete curmudgeon than to actually teach anyone. When you decide to share your knowledge... it is in a back-handed way. But... of course you are the "most liked" guy here. Who would dare question the fantastically mediocre Vincent Kurt Bellman? Give it a break, man. I will show myself out... Good luck everybody. Edited November 7, 2022 by The Neophyte Numismatist CoinJockey73, rrantique, Coinbuf and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VKurtB Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 On 11/7/2022 at 1:10 PM, The Neophyte Numismatist said: you would rather be a complete curmudgeon than to actually teach anyone. This is almost correct. I really do NOT feel it is my role to teach anyone, at least NOT in THIS forum. I give talks at conventions to teach. I can’t really find many people who WANT to learn. All I see is treasure hunters, vanity published book hawkers, and Etsy jockeys here. And yes, they DO NEED TO BE CALLED OUT. Quintus Arrius 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post physics-fan3.14 Posted November 7, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 7, 2022 Can't say I blame you. There are a couple of posters who overwhelm threads with their nonsense, and have really ruined this forum. Coinbuf, The Neophyte Numismatist and AdamWL 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VKurtB Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 On 11/7/2022 at 2:12 PM, physics-fan3.14 said: Can't say I blame you. There are a couple of posters who overwhelm threads with their nonsense, and have really ruined this forum. Like the fellow directly above. Quintus Arrius 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bsshog40 Posted November 7, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 7, 2022 Looks like this thread took a wrong turn. We are all different and knowledgeable in our own rights. Can't we all just get along? Opppps, I meant to say Can't we all just enjoy the hobby here? Lol EagleRJO, The Neophyte Numismatist, rrantique and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VKurtB Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 This is a complete copy of a post ON CoinTalk, the place that our recent departures apparently prefer. The post below is by an EXTREMELY LONG TERM member known as “CoinCorgi” who is a THINKER, not a marketer : ”Not my job to teach anyone anything, especially when there is infinitely better, more accurate and readily available answers on the internet. It'd be much more beneficial to society to teach the novices how to do their own research, critical thinking and all of that stuff (the ol' “If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day. If you teach a man to fish, you feed him for a lifetime.”). When I had a question, more often than not, my Dad (and Mom) would just tell me to "look it up", or just leave me in the library while they went and ran their errands, etc. Ya can't hear if your mouth is open. (Cited from: https://www.cointalk.com/threads/some-of-us-dont-appreciate-honesty.400752/) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coinbuf Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 On 11/7/2022 at 2:23 PM, bsshog40 said: Looks like this thread took a wrong turn. We are all different and knowledgeable in our own rights. Can't we all just get along? Opppps, I meant to say Can't we all just enjoy the hobby here? Lol Great idea, not likely to happen here because of one or two individuals, the mods here need to take action and show a couple the door as they have been on other forums. And actually this thread just emphasizes what is so wrong with this forum, a few jerks are always taking threads in the wrong directions so they can feel good about themselves. The Neophyte Numismatist 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VKurtB Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 On 11/7/2022 at 3:43 PM, Coinbuf said: Great idea, not likely to happen here because of one or two individuals, the mods here need to take action and show a couple the door as they have been on other forums. And actually this thread just emphasizes what is so wrong with this forum, a few jerks are always taking threads in the wrong directions so they can feel good about themselves. I am in absolutely ZERO warning points here. What exactly do you propose? When I go to shows where our moderator hosts are, they shake my hand and tell me how much they enjoy my posts. So again, what’s your plan? Morpheus1967 and Quintus Arrius 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VKurtB Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 (edited) The ANA, which @The Neophyte Numismatist apparently has a need to denigrate, has over 26,000 active members, even more than when change contained silver. What does this board have in regular contributors? A few dozen maybe? This AIN’T the hobby guys. It’s what you’ve tried to create as your own private club where you get to expel anybody who won’t play your game. What appointments have YOU received? What volunteer work do YOU do for the hobby? There are 13 National Volunteers that work for the ANA, … thirteen! Do you have ANY IDEA how “looked down upon” the Internet version of the hobby is? Cindy Wibiker, the long time Director of the FUN show, in her speech tore the Internet hobby another orifice. You guys are NOT THIS HOBBY. Edited November 7, 2022 by VKurtB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
