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To me it looks like it has been cleaned/polished.

Actually the second one is the one with the damage.  When this farthing design came out in 1895 and 1896 some scammers were managing to pass off the unfamiliar coins as 1/2 sovereigns. (The British version of the Racketeer nickel.) So partway through 1897 and in all of 1898, 99, 00 and 01 the farthings were deliberately blackened at the mint before they were released.  So at some point in the past that second coin was scrubbed to remove the black finish. 

How can a die crack establish authenticity unless it was a crack that is known for a particular variety?  Dies used by counterfeiters crack too.  And a counterfeit die made based on a coin that has a die crack could have the same "crack" as well.  So the crack wouldn't mean anything as far as authenticity.

On 2/13/2022 at 8:08 PM, VKurtB said:

Offer a nice sum to even SEE an ultra-rarity in an effort to “flush one out of hiding”. It’s not going to work, assuming the holders of any 1964 Peace dollars aren’t really stupid. They’d be seized under the Langbord precedent.

They haven't seized the Toven 1974 Aluminum cent.  They have said it's government property, but they have made no attempt to recover it.  Now if it were to be put up for public auction then I'm sure they would try to confiscate it.

On 2/16/2022 at 7:25 AM, Pauly6777 said:

put it back in a 2x2, take a better pic and post as RWB suggests.

Take the pictures BEFORE you put it in the 2X2.  The plastic of the 2X2 can cause problems with an image.

On 2/11/2022 at 8:41 AM, Mr.Bill347 said:

The green stuff is verdigras. Brings down value of cents. An acetone soak may pull that off.

If it is truly verdigris, acetone will not do anything to it.

As far as I know the bank is still holding a bunch of them.  At least they were as of around 1998. (the pictures in the article I linked were from 1977.)

On 2/8/2022 at 3:20 PM, Mr.Bill347 said:

It appears to be a 1795 flowing hair cent with a reeded edge.

Not even close.

1795 S-76 The real question is does it have a lettered edge or a plan edge.  The lettered edge (S-76a) is an R-5 (31 to 75 known) and the plain edge (S-76b) is an R-1 (over 1000 estimated to exist)  The S-76 plain edge is the most common of the 1795 cents.  That said this is not in the typical condition seen.  This is a very desirable coin.

And for about 5,000 of them research Bank of New York Hoard

and here is an interesting link/image showing part of the hoard

https://www.coinbooks.org/v23/esylum_v23n15a15.html

On 2/4/2022 at 7:38 AM, Hoghead515 said:

They used women back in the day because women did a better job at it and were faster.

And they paid them less.

I would wonder if part of the reason they didn't strike nickels 1968 to 70 or half dollars from 1967 to 70 might have related to the fact that during that period they were in the process of building and moving from the third P mint to the fourth P Mint.

On 1/30/2022 at 2:40 PM, RWB said:

If Rittenhouse and friends were trying to make something special, why use a patched planchet. Why select a planchet with adjustment marks?

Those are also my arguments against it being the first.

Now it IS one of the first coins.  The die clearly had some polishing done to it to give the PL surfaces to the theoretical first/presentation coin and those polished surfaces were still present when this coin was struck.  Another proof of it being one of the first coins struck is that it is the earliest die stage known for the 1794 dollars, and is the only dollar known from this die stage.  So this could conceivably be the second dollar or at least one of the first few.

On 1/26/2022 at 9:35 AM, zadok said:

yea but proofs spend just like non-proofs...

At one time so did buttons, or just about any other round metal item.  Didn't make them coins

Circulating, No.  But there are two legal tender non-circulating coins with Trump on them.  1000 and 5000 Franc coins of Equatorial Guinea.  Issued in 2017.

And just wait, eventually we will most likely have a Trump presidential dollar.  (For those who really hate him, look on the bright side, by the time it happens he will have been dead for two years.  Yes I know, you'd like to see his new dollar coin as soon as possible.)

On 2/2/2022 at 12:59 AM, Dacid Vigil said:

Sugar coated? Hmmm interesting choice of words

Old expression.  Many years ago medicines, pills etc. especially bad tasting ones would be made with a sugar coating to make them more palatable or "easier to take"  it.  So "sugar coating" ones words would mean to express them in ways so as to make them gentler or easier to accept.  Non-offensive.

On 1/27/2022 at 1:24 AM, Lem E said:

TPGs will refer to this as position A and B. (I’m not sure which is which.)

The OP coin is position B.

On 1/27/2022 at 12:21 PM, Mr.Bill347 said:

Just store them away. Its a first year design change

Second year of the design, these are 2022 rolls.

Raw coins are around $32 each, grading (if you send in 5 or more) costs around $28 each so then you've got $60 each in the coins.  Already graded MS-69's can be purchased for $44 each, MS-70's for around $55.  If it was me, I wouldn't bother sending them in.

Now if you were sending in several monster boxes at a time and could get the slabbing fees down, then it might be worth it.  Or if you were a distributor and were buying direct from the Mint at $25 each that would help as well.

Or they only collect the non proof coins, which is what I would do if I collected that series.  I don't collect proofs.  I collect coins and I don't consider NCLT (Non-Circulating Legal Tender) to be coins.

On 1/25/2022 at 12:34 PM, gmarguli said:

It's the ultimate non-collectible series. 

• Too short to be a challenge for a determined person.
• Too expensive for most collectors to collect in nice condition. 
• A few stoppers (price) in lower grades for a lot of collectors.
• Way too many counterfeits that fool even the dealers. 

And two stoppers that only the very wealthy can afford that keep you from having a complete set (1884 10 known, and 1885 5 known)

Looks like it.

What country?