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I would suspect you would at least have to have a sales tax/resale permit, but those are easy to obtain.

On 1/18/2022 at 3:47 PM, MarkFeld said:

In case it wasn't already included above, there's an additional processing fee, per invoice.

When I ran the NGC cost numbers I did include the Invoice fee.

On 1/18/2022 at 7:54 PM, gmarguli said:

Nope. No minimum submissions annually. 

So anyone could just say he was a dealer and get a 15% discount?

On 1/18/2022 at 5:40 PM, GoldFinger1969 said:

Any thought to continuing to strike the MCMVII HR's as a regular coin and not go to low-relief ? 

Because even the HR would not have struck up well enough with a single strike of the press.  They would probably have come out of the press looking like a VF coin.

I agree genuine, and lightly cleaned, but I think it is more of an XF than a AU (No way is it Unc).  The slight raised area in the field in front of the face is a slight case of Progressive Indirect Design Transfer of the eagles wing from the reverse.  Not that unusual on capped bust halves.

Sounds like you have three 1943 steel cents and possibly a 1944 that someone has plated.  There are a FEW 194 cents known struck on steel cent planchets and those are very valuable.  Which is why someone plated the 1944 cent.

On 1/17/2022 at 6:59 PM, gmarguli said:

You do realize that dealers received this 15% discount already. I believe all the bullet points are already available to dealers. 

What did dealers have to do before this to be authorized dealers?  I don't know but I suspect they had to submit a certain level of submissions annually.  Is it possible that a lot of small dealers who submitted enough to become authorized dealers initially have now slacked off on their submissions but are still benefiting from the 15% discount?  If so this $199 fee would make up for the fees lost to those authorized dealers who aren't submitting enough or shake them out

On 1/18/2022 at 2:28 PM, GoldFinger1969 said:

Can anybody give me an approximation -- for either NGC or PCGS -- what it would cost per coin to send them in for TPG certification ? 

The cost is going to vary depending on the value of the coins and the number of coins in the submission.  I ran the numbers awhile back for NGC for submission using the economy tier (which the two saints you mentioned would not qualify for, but the Morgan would). and if you sent in 5 coins at that level they would work out to an average of $27.50 each.  But if you sent in just ONE coin it would cost $72 for that coin.  The difference being that the fees and shipping/insurance would be split between the five coins in the first case but all dumped on the one coin in the second case.

The loss of that fin may seem small compared to the rest of the coin, but gold is heavy, and the tolerance on the double eagle was only .03 grams.  So maybe the loss of the fin could put it out of tolerance.

On 1/16/2022 at 12:40 PM, GoldFinger1969 said:

Double Eagles ($20 coin)...Eagles ($10 coins)...and so on for 1/2, 1/4 Eagles..

No those are the actual names for the denominations as set forth in sec 9 of the Mint act of 1792. and the Coinage act of 1849 for the Double Eagle

SEC. 9. And be it further enacted, That there shall be from time to time struck and coined at the said mint, coins of gold, silver, and copper, of the following denominations, values and descriptions, viz. Eagles—each to be of the value of ten dollars or units, and to contain two hundred fort-seven grains and four eighths of a grain of pure, or two hundred and seventy grains of standard gold. Half eagles—each to be of the value of five dollars, and to contain one hundred and twenty three grains and six eights of a grain of pure, or one hundred and thirty five grains of standard gold. Quarter Eagles—each to be of the value of two dollars and a half dollar, and to contain sixty one grains and seven eights of a grain of pure, or sixty seven grains and four eights of a grain of standard gold.

From the Act of 1849

Double eagles, each to be of the value of twenty dol­lars, or units

On 1/16/2022 at 9:37 PM, Hoghead515 said:

. Espically with the bean on it. 

Would probably be worth more if it was known to have been sent to CAC and DIDN'T bean.  The bean means it is solid for the grade or high end for the grade.  If it didn't bean then it is LOW end for the PO-01 grade and since the goal is to get the lowest grade a bean reject would be the lower grade coin and so worth more.

On 1/16/2022 at 8:04 AM, Quintus Arrius said:

None of the respondents caved in to the notion that providing a critique of a coin would somehow assist "the counterfeiters,"

Because it is a old very bad fake.  The counterfeiters are already well beyond the point where discussing the shortcomings of this piece will help them.

On 1/13/2022 at 7:52 PM, Zebo said:

Ok - then what would be Denver’s mint mark given that the D was given to Dallas?

Would depend on whether The Dalles was still in operation.  If it was they might not have opened Denver for coin production.

I think he was just  engaging in keyword spamming.

On 1/15/2022 at 11:11 PM, Walter Holmes said:

Yes,  both the 2021 ASE Type 1 and Type 2 are struck in opposite directions on the obverse and the reverse. 

And all other years as well.  On the other hand a lot (but not all) of Chinese fakes have them struck in medal orientation.

On 1/15/2022 at 12:31 PM, Quintus Arrius said:

I cannot envision a circumstance that would allow wear to occur in such a localized "alcove" area protected as it is by high terrain on three sides. It's either there, or it isn't.

They aren't lost due to wear on the coin, but due to wear and polishing of the die.

I would suspect they would have used a D.  Dahlonega was closed, and Denver was still in the future.  If not a D then probable either a T or TD.  The letters chosen have related to the name of the city the mint was located in, so T, TD, or D, are the obvious choices.  T would be unlikely because it would stand for "The".  Just doesn't seem reasonable.

They weren't legal tender.  On the other hand neither were half cents or large cents, flying eagle cents or copper nickel indian head cents when they were made, so that doesn't matter.

On 1/12/2022 at 6:31 AM, Fenntucky Mike said:

Looks like at least a few places produced these, the Royal Oak Mint overstruck the design onto SBA's and the other I've seen is Ken Potter who produced two silver medals,

If I remember correctly Royal Oak Mint is Ken Potter.

Too often.  Collector dies or divorces, spouse gets the coins but has no knowledge about them and just wants them gone and have to the cash.  Often gets taken to the cleaners selling better pieces for melt.

I may have.  It has been posted multiple times, on multiple forums, by multiple people.  Every so often someone stubbles across it and reposts it.

The rats would have the belly cut open, the gold coins placed inside and the the belly sewn back up.  This was done by a thief in the San Francisco Mint as well.  Same process.

After 1973 Cameo, or even deep cameo is what is normal.  Pieces without cameo are unusual.  The 73 is usually cameo and the most likely post 1972 year to have non-cameo coins. They changed their processes that year to actually try and have cameo coins.  1972 and eralier it was more of a hit or miss thing, the result of new dies and the cameo didn't last long once the dies went into use.

On 1/9/2022 at 9:29 PM, Coinbuf said:

I remember reading either here or ATS that the MAC sticker guy was part of the now defunct Accugrade ACG grading firm.  I do not know if that information is truly factual or mere speculation or gossip.

I don't know if he is the owner of the company, but he is involved with it.

Could be a scratch.  Can't tell if it is  a scratch on the coin  or a scratch on the planchet that wasn't completely wiped out by the strike.

I'd describe it as a fake error coin.