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Conder101

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  1. These show that there were 6 rev dies available, and that 4 rev were retained for use in 1878.  Snow says that only one reverse has been identified as having been used  for the business strikes and two obv dies.  Could the second reverse and third obv die used have been the dies used for the proof coins?  He is right that two obv and one rev is really too few for a mintage of 852,000 coins.  If they were used for that many there should be a LOT of 1877 cents with the dies showing severe die wear.  I can't recall ever seeing one that showed such severe wear.

  2. Yes I have seen twenty cent pieces with reeded edges, but they were reeded post mint to try and get them to pass as quarters.  A couple even had the denomination effaced on the reverse to try and help with the deception.  The twenty cent and quarter were very close in size and obverse design so passing a twenty cent as a quarter was probably a distinct possibility.  Reeding the edge would make it even not likely.

  3. Possibly.  Michael Wollcott in his book on the Nickel five cent pieces indicated that five pairs of 1913 dies were shipped to San Francisco before the orders came down not to do anything about the five cent pieces until the final work on the Indian head design was approved. (The Indian Head was still trying to satisfy the vending machine people and didn't come out until I believe February of 1913.)  I can't say if that is right or not because I do not know what the source of his information was.  I have not seen it from any other source.

  4. On 11/19/2021 at 7:40 PM, Mohawk said:

    On cents before 1990, the mint marks were punched into the die separately after the die was already made.  Therefore, a doubled die would not cause any doubling on the mint mark on a pre-1990 cent.

    But 1969 S DDO cents are known with machine doubling on the mintmark.  So doubling on the mintmark can't be used to dismiss the possibility of a 69 S DDO.  You HAVE to check other places for the strong doubling that occurs on that coin.

     

    On 11/19/2021 at 8:49 PM, Keith Dee said:

    Do all the devices on the obverse have to be doubled to be a true double die as well?

    On the 69 S DDO yes, but there are other coins with doubled dies that don't show doubling on all the devices.

  5. On 11/6/2021 at 12:34 PM, World Colonial said:

    If you do decide to ship, I would use USPS Registered Mail and ship it to yourself, using private insurance if necessary.

    If you were to use Registered mail you MUST use private insurance.  Because while Registered mail is extremely safe for shipping within the US, once it leaves the country you can't guarantee the security measures and the MAXIMUM pay out by the post office if the package does get lost is $49.  Doesn't matter what the declared value and postage fee paid was, $49 is it.

  6. I don't see a controversy, as David says it's been done before.  In fact this kind of thing has happened several times  The 1998, 99, and 2000 WAM cents are the same thing, a business strike obverse die paired with an unfinished proof reverse die.  The 1969 and 70 dimes with the modified torch reverse are also business strike obv dies and unfinished proof rev dies.

  7. I can't explain feed finger damage because as far as I can tell they don't have feed fingers.  Of course I also can't understand how the planchet gets into the collar.  The feed mechanism has them coming down from above  edge to edge into the press.  Some how they must fall sideways into the collar, are struck, are pushed out of the collar and fall out of the press. But it can't just be a matter of falling out of the press because at 13 coins per second the struck coin can't fall out of the way fast enough to get out of the way of the next strike.  I really don't understand it.