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I think the experts are going to ask you to weigh and measure it first and post the numbers here.

On 10/14/2021 at 12:50 AM, GBrad said:

According to my intel and reliable sources..... there were approximately 2,648,575,000 business strikes for the 1964 Philly Lincoln Cent. Of course.... they may be off a little bit.  

Yes one of the higher amount or pennies struck of any year up to that point. 64-D was even higher. I think the most pennies ever was 1982 Large Date with 10 Billion coins. LoL we never see those here.

On 10/12/2021 at 4:53 PM, Greenstang said:

No sense guessing at the grade anymore. We already have a correct answer.

Ya there are only 20 grades in-between 45 and 65 so that's close. But I do want to say it is a good looking coin Jblindy

On 10/11/2021 at 9:51 PM, Cecelia R. Valverde said:

Thank you for your response.I can't learn if I don't try.

But you are asking here first so that's a good start. I would post a photo of your coin before you send it in to see if anyone can help first.

On 10/10/2021 at 3:34 PM, Lem E said:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1943-2-P-5c-PCGS-MS63-Scarce-Overdate-War-Nickel-Jefferson-Nickel-/203603407040?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0

Wow that's a good price about half the cost of the last one I looked at   Like I said in a previous post the 43/2 should not be in the Circulated War Nickel Registry Set it is in a class by itself. But they also say you can't fight city hall.

On 10/10/2021 at 12:15 PM, Mikhail2400 said:

It always seems to happen like that dont it. I mean of course you had no hidden agenda when going to the orchard and it just made sense

Absolutely.. I had already told my granddaughter we were going to see some coins that day. I had just not told the wife but she is a smart coin shopper and knows I try to only by stuff for 30 to 50% less than retail. I just look for sharp looking coins at the MS63,4 and 5 range. That is why most of my coin collections are not key dates. The Keys are always a higher price no mater what they look like. and ya never know maybe one of my coins will be a Key date... some day ....LoL     

On 10/9/2021 at 8:58 PM, Mohawk said:

You'll have gotten a screaming deal if you get a 43/2 in MS for $32!! It's hard, but with some cherry picking you may be able to do it.  When I was working at the coin shop, I did manage to find about three of them in circulated grades in our junk silver, but those are long gone now.  I've never been able to cherry one in mint state though....but, hey, challenges can be fun!! Maybe you'll do it!! And you've gotten your 1943-D out of the way, which is good.  That's the toughest business strike to find nice, if I'm remembering correctly.  I know you said it's a poor man's set, but have you given thought to adding the 1942-P Proof?  They're not too bad price-wise in lower grades.

I don't know why NGC is asking for a 43/2 to complete the registry set I would think of that as a error coin ? And I don't think I will find a good looking 43/2 picking through bank rolls in 2021 unless it is a estate clean up that has been overlooked. It does happen around here but not to often. When you say 42-P Proof are you talking a type 1 or 2 ? I have a 42-P type 2 MS66 that I got for $28 it is not a proof but it is real sharp.

On 10/9/2021 at 4:13 PM, Mohawk said:

You're hitting it out of the park with War Nickels lately, J.P.  Very nice!

I am trying to build a poor mans WWII Nickel set. So far this 43 D is the most I have spent out of 8 coins so far at $32 for this coin but still a good deal I think. Now when I find a 43/2 for that price I will have gotten a good deal. 

On 10/9/2021 at 5:37 PM, Mohawk said:

Very nice addition, J.P.  Your local coin shop has some nice stuff.  I'm jealous.....coin shops seem to be dying out in my neck of the woods......damned COVID!

Yes I agree looking for coin shops now days is tough. He does a lot of estate buying, selling and appraisals it is a great shop mostly selling NGC, PCGS + third party graded Morgan's and 2X2 flips graded by him that are all very nice reasonably priced coins. Some gold coins and lots of mint sets, silver and clad. Gold and silver bullion rounds, bars Proof and graded eagles not to many half's, quarters, dime or nickel trays out. but he has stuff all over the place so maybe I just have to ask for them. He also sells collectable war items paper money and star notes. All in all a cool place run by great guy and his wife , My wife and 7 year old granddaughter were with me today and he gave her a 2000 Sacagawea and 2 arrowheads to go with it. I have seen him giving stuff to customers kids lots of times. Kids just glow when he does stuff like that and it is good for future business.    

I find cleaning scratches on a coin tend to go all one way. but also one way every different direction when you tip the coin different ways. Sometimes they are hard to see with a magnifying glass or a  loupe. I have been fooled a few times but I can always see them with the USB Magnifier when I bring them home LoL.  

 Slab Labels and hype are not important. Grade is important for resale. I started out wanting Bullion Gold Eagle coins but then found  there value is more just market. It did not seam to hold as well or go up like the real gold coins do.  I have 2 older $5 liberty and a Indian so far. I just like the real coins better than the bullion. in the end you can always get melt but a real coin means a little something more like a piece of history.  

As I said I know nothing about Ancient's . Thanks for the input Oldhoopster

How were you able to get coins fresh from a dig ?

On 10/4/2021 at 7:15 PM, J P Mashoke said:

Do not clean anything . just leave it the way it is

As I said I am not knowledgeable on this type of coin but until you have gotten someone who is.............. leave them as they are.

Do not clean anything . just leave it the way it is

I know nothing about this type of coin but no matter. I don't think the coins are close enough to see anything to go by. And in the flip you cannot see the edges. Just my observation andjeff19

On 10/4/2021 at 4:01 PM, The Neophyte Numismatist said:

@J P Mashoke Awesome!  I love that the dealer took good care of you.  I love that we have good people in a hobby care about it, and cultivate true relationships with collectors with a long-term lens.  Short-term profit sharks are a dime a dozen - that dealer is a gem!

Yes I am happy the AU 58 liberty is a worthy coin any gold coin between 55 and 65 are in my opinion. The 1851 2.5 coin I returned was kinda beet up from go .It was a good deal at the time but this $5 coin is much better.

On 10/2/2021 at 7:23 PM, VKurtB said:

As is frequently the case, the reverse is “cleaner”, more free of bag marks. Some true technical grading purists would insist the eagle breast feathers would preclude an MS grade.

Yes Kurt this coin is my reminder to always look past the face and see if there is more. I hope to see some photos of your coin cabinet some day VKurtB it sounds like it is going to be quit elegant.

On 10/2/2021 at 7:15 PM, VKurtB said:

This is not cabinet friction, but it is a severe case of bag marks. If this area is representative of the whole coin, it’s a MS60 or 61.

Yes , it is not always what it seems to be  

On 10/2/2021 at 7:13 PM, Mohawk said:

That girl got seriously smacked by the rims of a few other coins in a bag.  But that's okay....most of my girls spent at least a thousand years in the ground.  As far as a grade, we'd need full photos of both the obverse and reverse to help you there, JP.

Yes I would only pay 50 for it.  It is already graded a MS 63

On 10/1/2021 at 11:14 AM, The Neophyte Numismatist said:

In terms of cabinet friction; I do agree that any amount of true wear could disqualify the coin from being "Mint State".  However, I also agree that coin grading is subjective... MS in NGC, PCGS, ANACS, EAC can all mean slightly (or very) different things.  Are we talking straight grade, or Net Grade?  I definitely could see a slightly "frictioned" coin getting into an MS holder.  But, I could also see EAC net grading it AU or even XF.  Not trying to take us on a subjectively-rabbit-hole... but... 

In terms of Voodoo vs Vodu.. I think the Hollywood fictitious (VooDoo) is likely more appropriate than the religious sect of Vodu here.  However, some dealers/collectors would use a holy relic angle if they could .

This is one of my favorite Morgan's it reminds me never judge a book by it's cover. This is a face only a mother could love. Would this be cabinet friction. What grade is this girl in.

On 10/2/2021 at 1:18 PM, Modwriter said:

I found in a mint roll last year

oh my, you sent it out to be slabed ,that must have cost more that the worth of the coin ?