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J P M

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  1. On 9/30/2021 at 1:00 PM, Coinbuf said:

    it is just a guide, use it for what its worth.  Personally I seldom look at either the NGC or PCGS guides, I find recent auction results are a much better real world gauge of value.   Only on very coins that are seldom seen in the marketplace would I consult the guides, which for the material I buy is almost never.

    Yes I did state in my OP that it is only a guide and a high end price guide at that . And I agree the sold auction price is a closer price range. But when I am out coin shopping the guide is so much easier reference to pop up on your phone when looking at coins in hand. I just think it would serve everyone better if it was up to date. Oh well just a hopeful wish from a grumpy old man.:preach:

  2. On 9/27/2021 at 3:18 AM, Tridmn said:

    Do you not mean last year for steel strike; or am I mistaken? It is I very well maybe mistaken. I was just wanting clarification please and ty.

    After the 1964 silver proof set in cellophane wrapper there was the 65 clad in the same type wrapper. Then 66 and 67 SMS set in the straight plastic holders and then the 1968 clad proof set was the first rectangle plastic holders  

  3. On 9/26/2021 at 8:24 PM, RWB said:

    It is possible the 1967 sets were made with the same presses as earlier proofs, and with similar die and planchet preparation. However, quality control was also looser and I suspect packaging was also inferior in production. Mint document show multiple "reasons" for not issuing 1965-1967 proofs - the most common was the "coin shortage" which had largely vanished by mid-1965.

    Yes with each year they get better. with high magnification you can see the changes. In my opinion the 65 was a quickie throw together of top BS coins because of the collectors demands the 66 was a more prepared Die for a proof look and then the 67 was even more refined to prepare for the coming years ahead. Here are some shots of the fields. Sorry I did not take them out of there wrappers so there may be some glare but you can still see it well.  

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  4. On 9/26/2021 at 6:40 PM, Woods020 said:

    I’m with the others. I think there is just too many flat areas on the obverse in the hair to say it’s a weak strike I think. More than likely a nice AU. If that is in fact not wear, I actually say this would be a 63. Cheek and obverse fields are relatively clean for a Morgan. Again I just think I see too make questionable areas in the hair though. If I was betting my money would be on AU. 

    Ya woods on the first picture the hair is not to bad so I did not look close. but on the second picture it is more noticeable it has a lot of wear on the left wing under the scratch but that could be grease strike. The more I look the lower it goes ,Sorry Mike 58 maybe 60 the fields are very nice.

  5. On 9/25/2021 at 11:57 PM, Mohawk said:

    1964 Proof Sets....now they're just fine!! We can all agree about the existence of those (thumbsu  Did you check your Kennedy for the Accented Hair variety?

    Ya I did check it long time ago. Mine has normal hair and the I on LIBERTY is normal also. you are correct all the coins are in good shape except. The nickels don't have full steps like most mint sets and the dimes are FB but have a sandblasted texture that takes away a lot of the detail. The Quarter background is almost proof. But they did get the proof background on the half dollar pretty good.  

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  6. On 9/25/2021 at 9:15 PM, Mohawk said:

    At least it's not about the present ultimate numismatic cryptid, the "1964 SMS"!!  And you're right on....the 1967 sets are going to be the nicest, the 1965's will be the worst, generally speaking and the 1966's are better than the 1965's but not as nice as the 1967's.  Some of the 1967 SMS coins are nicer than the 1968-S proofs that came out the next year.  If you want nice examples of early clad Roosevelt Dimes and Washington Quarters, the 1967 SMS issues are the best bet, IMHO.

    I have a 1964 set and it says proof not SMS (thumbsu

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  7. Oh just so you all know the joke around the forum is the Special Mint Sets are not. lol Well I can now say with out a doubt they are better than BS but not as nice as a proof sets there close to proof in strike. They still have a lot of contact marks like a mint set. The 67 is a little better than the 66 in quality. But this is only one set there may be some nicer ones out there.9_9