Woods020

It got a straight grade because it is chocolate.

What doubling I see does not look consistent with doubled dies. It does look consistent with mechanical doubling, which is not special.

It's tough to see clearly, but I don't seeing any evidence of split serifs/notching, which are characteristics of hub doubling.  The dome doubling looks flat which is a characteristic of mechanical doubling. 
If you disagree with the opinions, you can always send it to a TPG or CONECA for authentication.

All I see is simple strike doubling on a well circulated nickel, which to be honest is what I expected to see.

You say you have a ddo, but your pics focus on the reverse? Do you think the doubling is on the reverse or obverse?
 
Can you get well focused pics where the coin fills most of the screen? We need to see detail. Lay the coin down and get a straight on shot. Then crop to fill the screen.
 
Also it’s not good practice to hold the coin like that. Hold it by the rim only if possible.  

Welcome back to collecting. This is a somewhat complex question. Generally as a rule of thumb you can assume a value atleast one grade down if not two.
 
Theoretically you could put the coin in your pocket for a year and the honest wear would remove the cleaning while also lowering the numeric grade. You also have to take into account the level of cleaning. A deep, aggressive cleaning will be two grades down or more. A light, older cleaning may only be one grade down. A way to think of it is what level of the coin is problem free. For example if it’s graded AU, and the cleaning is light, then at XF it would be problem free. This isn’t a science and just a way I think about it. 

They both get to the same thing. Both are just catch all phrases used to mean uncirculated. MS is also used to denote a circulation strike from proof. 
 
What I think your question is, is why is it not numerically graded MS-xxx. TPGs do offer this type of grading to simply denote uncirculated. Some large dealers do it to save money on grading while still getting it in a holder. 

Like I said his coins may not be worth grading but the memories are priceless. I will try to add one a day for a few days. That way I get to think back at times together, I hope you all enjoy seeing them too.

Did you see that some Ukrainians captured some of the Russian tanks and listed them on eBay? Funny enough the government took notice and said they would wave sales tax. The one I saw was 50k euros. The only catch is it must be picked up on Ukraine…..

Not that it is enough to impact prices, but I was at a fairly large coin show this weekend. The majority of the crowd was looking for hard assets. Junk silver, silver rounds, ASEs, and gold both raw and graded carried the show. Some numismatic interest but largely bullion seekers. Now this was in Chattanooga TN, where there tend to be more bullion stackers but it was still up. Contrasted with a show in Memphis last week, interest is largely up with inflation soaring and the uncertainty of the war. People are looking for hard assets. 

I’ve tried everything to cut the glare and still be able to see the coin, but nothing is working. I am bringing itto a friend who is a photographer, maybe she can get a better picture. Thanks for the input so far.

Bill if you are looking for raw Morgans message me. I can probably beat EBay prices and I’ll stand behind all of them. Just be careful on eBay. Each day I’m in this hobby, especially now that I’m trying my hand at dealing a little, I get more and more jaded. Counterfeits and Artificial Toning are going to be the end of raw Morgan collecting. It’s sad. 

At this point in the world that wouldn’t even surprise me. If he comes to Alabama the war may be over relatively soon 😂. Many many people around here would love to meet him and show him their gun collection. 

At this point in the world that wouldn’t even surprise me. If he comes to Alabama the war may be over relatively soon 😂. Many many people around here would love to meet him and show him their gun collection. 

They both get to the same thing. Both are just catch all phrases used to mean uncirculated. MS is also used to denote a circulation strike from proof. 
 
What I think your question is, is why is it not numerically graded MS-xxx. TPGs do offer this type of grading to simply denote uncirculated. Some large dealers do it to save money on grading while still getting it in a holder. 

From the old days............."Better dead than Red!"

A tradition I hope many of us keep alive. 

At this point in the world that wouldn’t even surprise me. If he comes to Alabama the war may be over relatively soon 😂. Many many people around here would love to meet him and show him their gun collection. 

Keith this took a lot of time to type and is great information from a trusted numismatist. Read this a couple of times. This is the type of information from the type of source you want to get it from. Avoid hype from YouTube, Facebook error groups, and crazy sights like marked money. I was unaware of marked money but recently got in a heated debate with someone over its validity. Learn the right info from the right sources and you will be far ahead of the collecting game. Knowledge is scarily becoming scarce in this hobby. Everyone wants to get rich from an “error” that’s nothing but damage or minor manufacturing defects. 

The forums are pretty glitchy in general IMO.

Your responses - the above statement in particular - lead me to believe that a study into how dies are made would benefit you greatly. And that was what Woods was saying, also. He did not mean that if you did not know the reason something happened that you should ignore it. He meant that if, after learning how the process actually worked, you determined that it could not have happened during the minting process, it could be (most of the time) dismissed as post-minting damage.
 
Mr Burdette responded as I was typing this post, and, as usual, he explained things well. Let me just add a link to a long but detailed article that I think will be of help to you. I suggest spending some time reading this and other articles on this subject.
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Edited to add: Also, if you could post a link to the Washington quarter with the circle that resembles an earring, I would like to take a look at it.

“I thought I did explain in the minting process about the earring on Washingtons ear. Its a little smaller then that circle. But it was perfectly placed on his ear it was almost like it was done on purpose. Apparently it was left behind from making the die they didn’t grind it down. As for the 1 no clue. My thought if it’s a raised 1 and there didn’t appear to be any damage to the reverse then it must of been struck on to the coin. Look I’m still a newbie here and that’s why I ask these questions. I’ve seen a lot of strange errors and I don’t work or never had for the US mint or any other mint. So me asking myself questions is pointless on this one. So just because I can’t explain it to myself the rest doesn’t matter?”
Keith Dee – OK. Let’s back up a little and see if we can straighten out what happed with your 1901 cent.
First, lets start with your comment about the minting process: “…it was perfectly placed on his ear it was almost like it was done on purpose. Apparently it was left behind from making the die they didn’t grind it down.”
Since you are new to coin collecting no one here expects you to understand the minting process; and it appears you’ve assumed a lot of things that are simply incorrect. Here’s how it goes – a coin is struck from hard steel dies, one for the obverse (front) and one for the reverse (back). These “working dies” are made by the Engraving Department and are exact copies of master dies that contains all the lettering, portrait, wreath, date, etc. No changes are made to the working dies – there is no “grinding down” or addition of “ear rings” or anything else. Mistakes can occur when a die is made, but most of these are caught during inspection and are very small in scale.
Briefly – no parts of the design are altered intentionally. The most common die defects are doubling of the design due to shifting of the die as it’s being made, and partial transfer of design from obverse to reverse die (and vice versa) due to dies hitting each other without a coin planchet between them. (Usually called "clashing.") Steel dies can also crack and these cracks are visible as raised irregular lines usually between the tops of letters. (Often seen on Morgan-type silver dollars.)
Second, coining errors. As coins are struck in the press, mechanical problems can occur and these create coins with certain types of errors. These include striking a planchet more than once because the ejector mechanism failed, striking a coin off-center, and many other mistakes.
You’re a “newbie” and trying to figure out how certain things you see on a coin could have happened. But what you want to avoid, is assuming you understand enough of the coining process to make a valid assumption. In the case of your 1901 cent, none of the marks you see were possible when the coin was struck, or by any process at the Philadelphia Mint. Logically, they must have occurred after the coin left the Mint, and that is the reason for members’ comments about damage.
For your next coin, I suggest you post good photos and describe what you see. Don’t try to explain how it might have happened – let the members help you understand possibilities. That will prepare you to examine your coins with more and better knowledge.
Hope this helps a little. Don’t hesitate to ask questions!

In the mail today.

I’m at a show in Chattanooga TN this weekend, and picked up this beauty today. Nicest 09-S VDB I have ever owned for sure. Pay no attention to my quick cell phone snaps. 
 
@Coinbuf I thought of you when I was walking away with it