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I see what appear to be patches of hairlines on both the obv and rev, I would say cleaned.

With all the valuable content that you have contributed you will be missed. O wait that is right you have not contributed anything.

Always a good discussion, as usual it is very hard sometimes to arrive at a consensus of opinion when color is involved. This coin has a great cartwheel under the toning which is much more translucent in hand than the photo suggests which makes the toning look more legit in hand. However it lacks any of the normal cues that many use to determine NT toning such as the tone pulling away from the letters and a more normal color progression. I tend to agree and think that Kurt's idea of how this toning evolved is correct but of course we will never know for sure. This is in a gold PCI holder, as most know the gold label PCI holders are not considered reliable or generally accurate by much of the market. PCI called this MS64 and considered the tone NT or at least market acceptable to them. As I said I bought it many years ago for $45 dollars as an interesting conversation piece given the unusual nature and look of the toning.

Interesting replies so far, any others?

You are confusing reflections and die deterioration as die doubling which neither are. This gets back to what Kurt said, high magnification actually exacerbates this confusion for people that do not have the information and skills to identify true doubling. Clearly you have convinced yourself that you have found something rare and valuable, you have not. However because you have convinced yourself that you are right you do not want to hear the truth, so I suggest that you send this in for variety service and see for yourself. Make no mistake I know you will be wasting your money but it seems that is the only course of action that will prove to you what you have.

I have owned this Morgan for many years and have gone back and forth on the reverse colors. I have also attempted to photograph it myself a few times but as with a few coin I have I just was not very happy with my results. So I sent this out to Mark Goodman recently and as usual he nailed it perfectly. So what say you NGC forum members; good or doctored to the moon.

Those are looking very nice, the top obv photo is great. The focus is sharp, the lighting is well diffused with no super hot/bright or overly dark areas. Glad that you are having fun with the photo system, it can be a very satisfying hobby within the hobby. Here is a link to a site by a guy that literally wrote the book on coin photography, on this site he talks about and gives some tips on how to photograph proofs which may be of some help to you when working with the DMPL coins. Alot of the articles are very technical but in the "basic coin photography" section he discusses some great basic issues with tips and pointers. Mark Goodman's website.

Its really a little of both, this was style of holder was used by ANACS back in the time frame of 1996 to 1999. Grading was a bit different back then and sometimes these dark brown to almost black looking Lincolns the luster can be muted by the heavy tone. I think that if I cracked this coin and sent it in today it has a very good chance of receiving a 64 with a slim shot at 65. But there is the risk of the coin getting bagged for AT as this blue color has some connection to the use of MS70 on copper coins, I think the coin is fine and would straight grade again but the risk is there with toned coins. Hope you and everyone else is enjoying the Memorial weekend.

If you look a couple of posts up the op says the coin is already at NGC in the grading process.

No just a nick that the light caught perfectly which really makes it standout. It does indeed have some blue tone to it, these dark brown coins that have some colors are very tricky. You really need a good light source to bring out the colors, this is the fifth dark brown Lincoln that I have that has some of those electric colors under the light.

Picked this up a couple of weeks ago from a member on the PCGS forum, just the quick slab shots that he sent me as I have not had time to attempt to get any new photos yet myself.

PL, DMPL, and proofs are very tough because of the reflective surfaces and need the lighting adjusted from what you use for a regular brilliant coin. That said you photos are a great start, you may need to play with the white balance and the placement of the lights some to get things the way you want them.

Bump for the addition of the Washington quarter.

Picked this up recently on a whim, need to sit down and attempt a nice shot but only have this quick slab shot.

My first reaction was 66+

It does seem that the zinc Lincolns tend to tone very quickly.

Buzz kill.

I like the advice that @Woods020 provided, I like the history that is attached to old gold so I prefer it to the modern mint gold products. However as you said its hard to dislike gold in any form.

Yes but if it is a proof then the bell lines are moot as FBL designation is not something that the TPG's put on the label for proofs.

I was wondering the same thing.

No worries the NGC only raking is of no concern to me, and I have a few adds to my set that are not showing just yet.

I hear you, I see posts from a few collectors that have embraced the box of twenty concept and I just wonder why. I get the concept but I would be so bored with so few coins to look at and enjoy. A friend once said, I've never had a 70 but lots of 62's; actually his saying is slightly different when referring to the opposite sex but I'll hold back so I don't get banned.

Very pretty @Lem E bust halves so come with some very nice color to them, congrats on the new addition.

While rather cool this is just damage.

Agreed soak the coins in acetone and it should remove all the foreign matter, its possible that both coins might still show signs of the gunk that is on them depending on if or not the PVC and other stuff has eaten into the surface.