bsshog40 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 39 minutes ago, NevadaS&G said: Look I don't belong here, This site has Good Information from a host of people Coinbuf, VKurt, Gmarguli, etc, even Maulemall included about Numismatics and Coins. I'm neither a Coin Collector nor a Coin Scholar. I'm a salesman and businessman. I was pissed because I run a business and PCGS interrupted my bottom line. Any interruptions i will not take dearly too. I guess that is what you guys strive for is Identifying Inspecting, and Pointing out each and every coin there is.. I also have multiple seller accounts, Coins are not my only thing, I deal in Electronics, and have an Auto Repair shop and I'm an Amateur Tiler, Maybe their grading system is set up for you guys and I'm in the wrong, who knows. Regardless I expressed my frustrations and I will now move along. Thanks ! I don't send coins out for grading myself. I usually buy already slabbed. Just ribbin' on the bike. Lol I have a couple harleys! Hoghead515 and Modwriter 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex in PA. Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 8 hours ago, NevadaS&G said: Don't worry guys I wont be here long enough to bother you anymore, the mods will come to delete me and this post. Banned from another forum huh? MAULEMALL and Ray, USMC 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ldhair Posted December 15, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 15, 2020 If you can't be up front and honest from the start, this site is a rough road. Members here will point out false information and that's a good thing. MAULEMALL, Ray, USMC and Hoghead515 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NevadaS&G Posted December 16, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted December 16, 2020 I can only hope NGC grades that 1889 very soon so I can shove it in your faces and declare myself the Winner. MAULEMALL, Alex in PA. and Ray, USMC 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MAULEMALL Posted December 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, NevadaS&G said: I can only hope NGC grades that 1889 very soon so I can shove it in your faces and declare myself the Winner. Dude if thats all it takes, You Win.. Henri Charriere, Ray, USMC, ldhair and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAULEMALL Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 NOW Mr Nevada ... now that you were declared the winner.. How are you going to repair your reputation.. I mean after you shove it in all our faces and stuff? How do you make people realize that you aren't a sleazy used car salesman with no actual knowledge and nothing really redeeming in your posts? I mean after you're done shoving our face in it? Whats going to be your contribution to the board? Truthfully I think PCGS Is getting the best part of the deal... Ray, USMC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NevadaS&G Posted December 16, 2020 Author Share Posted December 16, 2020 2 hours ago, MAULEMALL said: NOW Mr Nevada ... now that you were declared the winner.. How are you going to repair your reputation.. I mean after you shove it in all our faces and stuff? How do you make people realize that you aren't a sleazy used car salesman with no actual knowledge and nothing really redeeming in your posts? I mean after you're done shoving our face in it? Whats going to be your contribution to the board? Truthfully I think PCGS Is getting the best part of the deal... I just contributed ! MAULEMALL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAULEMALL Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 6 hours ago, NevadaS&G said: I just contributed ! like a ho contributes the clap Ray, USMC and Alex in PA. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAULEMALL Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 (edited) A $7.000.00 1958 MS66 Washington Really ?? pffftttt https://www.ebay.com/itm/1958-Washington-Quarter-PCGS-MS-66-Rare-Wild-Toned-Fire-/353215485779?&_trksid=p2056016.m2518.l4276 Edited December 16, 2020 by MAULEMALL Hoghead515 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Alex in PA. Posted December 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 16, 2020 42 minutes ago, MAULEMALL said: A $7.000.00 1958 MS66 Washington Really ?? pffftttt https://www.ebay.com/itm/1958-Washington-Quarter-PCGS-MS-66-Rare-Wild-Toned-Fire-/353215485779?&_trksid=p2056016.m2518.l4276 Some, maybe even most, of those EBay coin and currency sellers have really lost their minds. BIN prices have gone through the ceiling. Ray, USMC, Coinbuf, Hoghead515 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray, USMC Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 I would like to ask NevadaS&G these questions: 1. What did you hope to accomplish with regards to your unfounded accusations ? 2. Did you accomplish anything ? 3. Are you satisfied with the outcome here ? 4. Do you feel it is necessary to continue this spirited banter ? 5. Since you have been the declared winner are you now satisfied ? 6. Are you willing to stay on this forum and learn as previously suggest ? Alex in PA. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NevadaS&G Posted December 16, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted December 16, 2020 Some things are just not for sale unless I do ever get a ridiculous amount of money. That coin when sitting in a presentation box is disturbingly magical. Say you have it in your office and every time you look at it its never the same. Its overwhelmingly powerful. Holographic, Color Changing, Color Shifting Insanity. Your office may have 10,000 distractions but when someone enters the office that coin is the only thing they see, A veritable beacon drawing you in. I get bored looking at coins but this one I have to cover most of the time on its side so no one sees it because that's all they see. Everyone in the room turns Invisible. It's such a distraction I lose eye contact with visitors to my office. Smaller in diameter than a Dollar, Smaller than a Half Dollar, 100X more powerful. The second you move your head, then coin changes again. 20X More powerful than the PCGS Hologram...... Hence the I will never sell it price unless your Rockefeller MAULEMALL, RonnieR131, Henri Charriere and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NevadaS&G Posted December 16, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted December 16, 2020 (edited) Here's a pic of the original.... That US Mint Cardboard really did a number on this 58. Its a Comical Coin.... Some say there's another one but the original owner scratched the tone off with his finger believing it was not real. Edited December 16, 2020 by NevadaS&G Hoghead515, RonnieR131, Ray, USMC and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoghead515 Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 Sweet looking quarter. NevadaS&G 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAULEMALL Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 30 minutes ago, NevadaS&G said: Here's a pic of the original.... That US Mint Cardboard really did a number on this 58. Its a Comical Coin.... Some say there's another one but the original owner scratched the tone off with his finger believing it was not real. Looks assisted.. bsshog40 and Alex in PA. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scopru Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 3 hours ago, NevadaS&G said: Some things are just not for sale unless I do ever get a ridiculous amount of money. That coin when sitting in a presentation box is disturbingly magical. Say you have it in your office and every time you look at it its never the same. Its overwhelmingly powerful. Holographic, Color Changing, Color Shifting Insanity. Your office may have 10,000 distractions but when someone enters the office that coin is the only thing they see, A veritable beacon drawing you in. I get bored looking at coins but this one I have to cover most of the time on its side so no one sees it because that's all they see. Everyone in the room turns Invisible. It's such a distraction I lose eye contact with visitors to my office. Smaller in diameter than a Dollar, Smaller than a Half Dollar, 100X more powerful. The second you move your head, then coin changes again. 20X More powerful than the PCGS Hologram...... Hence the I will never sell it price unless your Rockefeller You really are a salesman. You don't appear to know much about coins, but I'll give you the fancy descriptive sales pitch. MAULEMALL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NevadaS&G Posted December 16, 2020 Author Share Posted December 16, 2020 35 minutes ago, MAULEMALL said: Looks assisted.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NevadaS&G Posted December 16, 2020 Author Share Posted December 16, 2020 16 minutes ago, scopru said: You really are a salesman. You don't appear to know much about coins, but I'll give you the fancy descriptive sales pitch. I've seen all kinds of Toners, Rainbows, Magical Unics, Artificial Jobbers, nothing and I mean nothing compares to this one Quarter. Its spending most of its time in the dark now for this one reason. MAULEMALL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmarguli Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 46 minutes ago, NevadaS&G said: I've seen all kinds of Toners, Rainbows, Magical Unics, Artificial Jobbers, nothing and I mean nothing compares to this one Quarter. Then you should look at the PCGS Pop Report and see the pictures of the numerous ones that look nicer and graded higher than this one. Given the pic was taken with a ton of light, I suspect this is a typical mint set toned 25c, maybe with a little more than normal light blue/green color. Alex in PA. and MAULEMALL 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NevadaS&G Posted December 16, 2020 Author Share Posted December 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, gmarguli said: Then you should look at the PCGS Pop Report and see the pictures of the numerous ones that look nicer and graded higher than this one. Given the pic was taken with a ton of light, I suspect this is a typical mint set toned 25c, maybe with a little more than normal light blue/green color. https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/1958-25c/images/5864 Find It then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmarguli Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, NevadaS&G said: https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/1958-25c/images/5864 Find It then There are several at the 66 & 65 level that I liked just as much or better. The higher grade ones blow yours away. Don't forget, most of these mint set toned coins were graded in the early 90's. There are no TrueView pics of them online. I used to bust apart tons of 47-58 mint sets and submit the coins. I've submitted hundreds of these toned coins. Edited December 16, 2020 by gmarguli MAULEMALL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoghead515 Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 Speaking of toned coins. I bought a 62 proof set that had never been opened. I had to rip the envelope to get it open. The nickle in it is the most beautiful light blue color I've seen. Im very happy I got this set. Also the Franklin is a beautiful light pink color. Im gonna send them in and have them slabbed. Only thing with the Franklin is it has a blue spot on the reverse that don't look like toning. I get home this evening ill start a thread on it. Maybe some of you can talk me out of sending it in, hopefully, cause I can't control myself sometimes. Both them little guys that sit on your shoulders are telling me to have it graded. GoldFinger1969 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MAULEMALL Posted December 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 16, 2020 1 minute ago, gmarguli said: I used to bust apart tons of 47-58 mint sets and submit the coins. I've submitted hundreds of these toned coins. Lord knows I tried to keep your pace... gmarguli, Hoghead515 and Alex in PA. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MAULEMALL Posted December 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, Hoghead515 said: Speaking of toned coins. I bought a 62 proof set that had never been opened. I had to rip the envelope to get it open. The nickle in it is the most beautiful light blue color I've seen. Im very happy I got this set. Also the Franklin is a beautiful light pink color. Im gonna send them in and have them slabbed. Only thing with the Franklin is it has a blue spot on the reverse that don't look like toning. I get home this evening ill start a thread on it. Maybe some of you can talk me out of sending it in, hopefully, cause I can't control myself sometimes. Both them little guys that sit on your shoulders are telling me to have it graded. Franklins will break your heart... Proof Franklins will chew on it ,Throw it in the mud, Slap your wife and kids around.... They just hurt... so much.... RonnieR131, Hoghead515 and Alex in PA. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henri Charriere Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 48 minutes ago, gmarguli said: I used to bust apart tons of 47-58 mint sets and submit the coins. I've submitted hundreds of these toned coins. [Pardon the incongruity, but that helps explain what happened to all the cherry-picked virgins...] Alex in PA. and Hoghead515 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henri Charriere Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 On 12/16/2020 at 3:20 PM, MAULEMALL said: Lord knows I tried to keep your pace... ["What God hath wrought, let no man tear asunder." Applications: marriage; the severing of North from South America with a Canal at the Isthmus of Panama; traumatic (unauthorized) de-encapsulations; and the dispersal of proof sets... After-action report: Very lively thread; informative, entertaining -- and revealing. Arrived with a bang. Chugged through 235 posts before being spent nary a week later. Lots of flying recriminations leaving more questions than answers. A rather feisty OP holding his own right on up to the end. No winners. No losers. No matter. A good time was had by all.] * * * Alex in PA. and Ray, USMC 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post VKurtB Posted February 13, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 13, 2021 On 12/16/2020 at 2:06 PM, NevadaS&G said: https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/1958-25c/images/5864 Find It then I don’t even LIKE “toners”. Is that still allowed in this field? Alex in PA., Modwriter and Ray, USMC 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldFinger1969 Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 On 12/15/2020 at 9:13 PM, NevadaS&G said: I can only hope NGC grades that 1889 very soon so I can shove it in your faces and declare myself the Winner. You seem knowledgeable about coins so why the hostility ? Debate coins, don't attack posters -- or even a TPG. If you want to say you strongly disagree with a TPG on a grade they gave you or didn't give you....FINE. You'd probably get support from here. It's not only toning that matters....it's tone. Ray, USMC and Alex in PA. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henri Charriere Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 On 2/12/2021 at 7:09 PM, VKurtB said: I don’t even LIKE “toners”. Is that still allowed in this field? [As you may have heard, unless I am sadly mistaken, NGC in early May 2021 announced a dedicated Set Registry for toners. I do not recall the denomination chosen.] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Abshier Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 Some coins not all of them but mostly Morgans I’ve notice grading standards between PCGS and NGC seems to me PCGS awards higher grades for higher luster Morgan dollars even if they lack a deep strike full of bag marks and distractions , where as NGC seems to ignore the higher luster and focus more on strike . I’ve also noticed this trend with Walker half dollars as well PCGS will award higher grade for luster but the strike looks weak compared to NGC grading for a deeper strike... why do PCGS coins demand a higher premium ? I have no idea I guess a group of dealers really poisoned the minds of gullible collectors thinking PCGS is only #1 , but when it comes to World coins Go 100% with NGC they have more of a data base and foot hold on world coins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...