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[Henri Charriere]

@The Neophyte Numismatist

The OP's religious convictions do not bother me. He is long gone. His thread lay dormant.   He appeared one day, managed to alienate the entire membership in the space of one week, and beat a hasty retreat.

The gentlemen was simply sounding off. He was not interested in engaging anyone. He was not out to hurt or cheat anyone.  There was not a single malicious bone in his body.  He was harmless.

[GoldFinger1969]

On 9/6/2022 at 12:50 PM, The Neophyte Numismatist said:

Hope you feel better soon QA. This is the last time I will respond to this thread... I wanted to wish QA well, but I do not want to promote traffic to this otherwise TOXIC thread.  The OP is nothing more than a troll.  Hopefully this thread sinks into the abyss and we can start a new one to have more meaningful conversation.

On many threads -- thankfully this one -- the most recent posts are totally divorced from drivel at the beginning. 

[Henri Charriere]

On 9/7/2022 at 12:00 AM, GoldFinger1969 said:

On many threads -- thankfully this one -- the most recent posts are totally divorced from drivel at the beginning. 

I am beginning to feel there is no one outside of myself that recognized the OP for what he was: no different from the harried commuter sounding off on the subway and nobody to be taken seriously.  But casting aspersions on his good name and mocking his religion, Troll, I believe, is taking things too far.       

[VKurtB]

On 9/7/2022 at 6:36 AM, Quintus Arrius said:

I am beginning to feel there is no one outside of myself that recognized the OP for what he was: no different from the harried commuter sounding off on the subway and nobody to be taken seriously.  But casting aspersions on his good name and mocking his religion, Troll, I believe, is taking things too far.       

You must consider the “body of work” of the OP, not just this thread. Troll is an apt description. 

[Oldhoopster]

I think everyone has made their point and any minds that could have been changed have been changed, and those that are set with there opinions aren't going to change. 

Maybe its time for this thread to fade off into the sunset once again.  Just my thoughts, so do whatever you like

 

[Henri Charriere]

On 9/7/2022 at 6:28 PM, Oldhoopster said:

I think everyone has made their point and any minds that could have been changed have been changed, and those that are set with there opinions aren't going to change. 

Maybe its time for this thread to fade off into the sunset once again.  Just my thoughts, so do whatever you like

 

[As I am constrained, by Law, to defer to both you and VKurtB, I will take my leave without further comment, allowing you both to have the last word.]  

[Oldhoopster]

On 9/7/2022 at 6:54 PM, Quintus Arrius said:

[As I am constrained, by Law, to defer to both you and VKurtB, I will take my leave without further comment, allowing you both to have the last word.]  

Please stop doing that. 

You are entitled to post whatever you please on the open forum. I was just offering an opinion on where I thought this thread was going but there is no reason why you can't and shouldn't post what you want regardless of the input of others 

[VKurtB]

If memory serves, the OP also spoke of having a fairly common coin that had some pretty vibrant color, which TO HIM made it a high four-figure coin. I hope he enjoys looking at it; I really do. It is unlikely to sell for anywhere near what the OP wants, especially with the recent trend of increased conservatism toward wildly colored coins. 

[Henri Charriere]

On 9/7/2022 at 8:29 PM, Oldhoopster said:

Please stop doing that. 

Your wish, sir, is my command. I am humbled, and awed that you would take time out from your busy schedule to honor me with your comment and presence.  

[Henri Charriere]

@VKurtB:

I cannot stay long...

The OP engages in a little mischief.  He embellishes. He embroiders. He exaggerates. Nothing we haven't seen time and time again. Maybe it's just me, but this type of extracurricular activity does not rise to the level warranting condemnation as a Troll. What, exactly, has he deprived anyone of?  Absolutely nothing! Nothing insidious. Nothing under-handed. Much ado about nothing.

My assessment may have differed from yours but nobody had any trouble sizing him up and delivering their opinions. Our mutual friend, speaking on behalf of the Forum, has read us his verdict.  So ordered.  🐓 

[The Neophyte Numismatist]

On 9/8/2022 at 12:29 AM, Quintus Arrius said:

....The OP engages in a little mischief.  He embellishes. He embroiders. He exaggerates. Nothing we haven't seen time and time again. Maybe it's just me, but this type of extracurricular activity does not rise to the level warranting condemnation as a Troll. What, exactly, has he deprived anyone of?  Absolutely nothing! Nothing insidious. Nothing under-handed. Much ado about nothing.

My assessment may have differed from yours but nobody had any trouble sizing him up and delivering their opinions. Our mutual friend, speaking on behalf of the Forum, has read us his verdict.  So ordered.  🐓 

Agree to disagree... Here is my verdict.

The OP:

• Made pretty serious accusations of TPG without real proof.
• Called the TPG "Perverts" and "Antifa"
• Was filled with politically charged commentary (I think we get enough of this all day long, so we don't need it in coins)
• Talking about people's mothers (Wrong no matter what the circumstances)
• Filled with lots of tough guy bravado ("come and get me" stuff while he posts pictures of his motorcycle).

I think it's safe to say he mocked his own name, and was just trying to be intentionally inflammatory and rib anyone he could.  Nearly every comment was laced with a want/need to argue with the group.  

I don't understand your want to keep this thread alive.  The OP is gone, and now you appear to have picked-up the torch.

LET IT DIE - Please! (and Yes... that means don't respond to this)

Edited September 8, 2022 by The Neophyte Numismatist

[Henri Charriere]

On 9/7/2022 at 4:13 PM, VKurtB said:

You must consider the “body of work” of the OP, not just this thread. Troll is an apt description. 

I was wholly unaware he was not only published, but a prolific writer.

[Henri Charriere]

On 9/7/2022 at 6:28 PM, Oldhoopster said:

 ....Maybe its time for this thread to fade off into the sunset once again....

Before we abandon ship, a gratuitous, unsolicited observation... there was a member who scoffed at a claim I once made, responding: I thought you said you were being held on "a short leash by NGC moderators?"  I was and I still am.

I re-assert my claim and pose a simple query: To what do you attribute the sudden appearance, literally after the passage of years, of the website's coordinator who [coincidentally] brought along a helpful, accurate, do-it-yourself guide to "ignoring" members one no longer feels the inclination to interact with?  I believe her special appearance had my name written all over it. As always, I do not believe I deserve to be lavished with such an honor and attendant attention.

[Henri Charriere]

On 9/8/2022 at 8:01 AM, The Neophyte Numismatist said:

.... The OP is gone, and now you appear to have picked-up the torch.

LET IT DIE - Please! (and Yes... that means don't respond to this)

Allow me, please, to take a shot at this as I have been mulling over what you've written pretty much since you'd posted it.

Firstly, I am not qualified to pick up the torch--and do not have any desire to do so.

Secondly, and more importantly, as it was explained to me in some class I took in college, nobody can upset you. You can, however, allow yourself to become upset. I most assuredly would not give any member the satisfaction of knowing something he had written truly upset me. Ain' happenin'!!

Lastly, the member always has an option. Moderation once cited me for "contentiousness." Rather than dispute the characterization, I reviewed my conduct and decided if a post had the potential of bringing out the worst in me, I would simply scroll away. Had I felt the OP was anything but unobjectionable, I can choose to engage him knowing full well a firing squad awaits, or PASS. I choose the latter. Are there any true victories to be had on a Chat Board? I think not.  [I hold you, Neophyte or not, in the highest regard.]

[VKurtB]

On 9/8/2022 at 6:31 PM, Quintus Arrius said:

Allow me, please, to take a shot at this as I have been mulling over what you've written pretty much since you'd posted it.

Firstly, I am not qualified to pick up the torch--and do not have any desire to do so.

Secondly, and more importantly, as it was explained to me in some class I took in college, nobody can upset you. You can, however, allow yourself to become upset. I most assuredly would not give any member the satisfaction of knowing something he had written truly upset me. Ain' happenin'!!

Lastly, the member always has an option. Moderation once cited me for "contentiousness." Rather than dispute the characterization, I reviewed my conduct and decided if a post had the potential of bringing out the worst in me, I would simply scroll away. Had I felt the OP was anything but unobjectionable, I can choose to engage him knowing full well a firing squad awaits, or PASS. I choose the latter. Are there any true victories to be had on a Chat Board? I think not.  [I hold you, Neophyte or not, in the highest regard.]

Know what? This, this right here above what I type here? This is contentiousness. Thought you’d like to know. And as a retired legislative staffer who grew up in the Philly media market, I’m kind of a “double expert” in contentiousness. 

Edited September 8, 2022 by VKurtB

[Henri Charriere]

@VKurtB:

"Ain' happenin'!"  😉  

[Henri Charriere]

On 5/10/2021 at 2:35 PM, Morpheus1967 said:

You assume my username refers to The Matrix?  Why not Morpheus, God of Dreams?  Tsk-tsk QA.

As for free speech and the guidelines, here is an excerpt directly from the guidelines, emphasis mine, which I feel pertain to the accusatory statements he made:

You explicitly agree, in using this web site or any service provided, that you shall not:

(a) provide any Content or perform any conduct that may be unlawful, illegal, threatening, harmful, abusive, harassing, stalking, tortuous, defamatory, libelous, vulgar, obscene, offensive, objectionable, pornographic, designed to or does interfere or interrupt this web site or any service provided, infected with a virus or other destructive or deleterious programming routine, give rise to civil or criminal liability, or which may violate an applicable local, national or international law;

  

A bull in a china shop has NO intent. Those bulls that participate in that festival in Pamplona, Spain, have NO intent. What's that, you got gored? Sorry, NO intent! This member may very well have been all the things other members have attributed to him, but there was NO intent. I still fail to see what was so self-evident to me, continues to vex and bedevil others. As the former president so eloquently put it: NO COLLUSION, i.e., NO INTENT!  One more time now, everybody, NO INTENT.   🐓 

[Man, I love this thread!]

[Oldhoopster]

On 9/12/2022 at 8:57 AM, Quintus Arrius said:

A bull in a china shop has NO intent. Those bulls that participate in that festival in Pamplona, Spain, have NO intent. What's that, you got gored? Sorry, NO intent! This member may very well have been all the things other members have attributed to him, but there was NO intent. I still fail to see what was so self-evident to me, continues to vex and bedevil others. As the former president so eloquently put it: NO COLLUSION, i.e., NO INTENT!  One more time now, everybody, NO INTENT.   🐓 

[Man, I love this thread!]

You said:

[Man, I love this thread!]

I think you're the only one. 

[VKurtB]

On 9/12/2022 at 7:57 AM, Quintus Arrius said:

A bull in a china shop has NO intent. Those bulls that participate in that festival in Pamplona, Spain, have NO intent. What's that, you got gored? Sorry, NO intent! This member may very well have been all the things other members have attributed to him, but there was NO intent. I still fail to see what was so self-evident to me, continues to vex and bedevil others. As the former president so eloquently put it: NO COLLUSION, i.e., NO INTENT!  One more time now, everybody, NO INTENT.   🐓 

[Man, I love this thread!]

So you think the long absent OP was spewing without ill intent? Interesting viewpoint. I read back a good bit of his postings and I read nothing but ill intent. A matter of interpreting text without inflection I suppose. To me, his most objectionable rants aren’t even from this thread. 

I’m in need of a trip to Pamplona. Not to run. My neurological deficits make that a more suicidal act than usual. I can hang out a balcony with the Hasselblad and capture it all on some nice Ektachrome. 

Edited September 12, 2022 by VKurtB

[Henri Charriere]

@VKurtB:

I could have sworn the gentleman became a member here, spewed forth his intemperamental invective, and not a week later, fled the premises.  I wasn't even aware he had violated the sanctity of other threads. How did he have the time? I wonder if he got bang for his buck...

A Hasselblad? I haven't heard that name in years. [Don't lean too far off that balcony!  Remember:  "NO INTENT!"]  🐓 

[VKurtB]

On 9/12/2022 at 12:03 PM, Quintus Arrius said:

@VKurtB:

I could have sworn the gentleman became a member here, spewed forth his intemperamental invective, and not a week later, fled the premises.  I wasn't even aware he had violated the sanctity of other threads. How did he have the time? I wonder if he got bang for his buck...

A Hasselblad? I haven't heard that name in years. [Don't lean too far off that balcony!  Remember:  "NO INTENT!"]  🐓 

I am CONSIDERING adding a new digital Hasselblad to my existing 1968 vintage film version. The only thing stopping me from pulling the trigger is the lack of motion video capability. Oh the decisions!

[Henri Charriere]

On 9/12/2022 at 1:36 PM, VKurtB said:

I am CONSIDERING adding a new digital Hasselblad to my existing 1968 vintage film version. The only thing stopping me from pulling the trigger is the lack of motion video capability. Oh the decisions!

When I asked a young clerk where the disposable cameras were kept in a local CVS pharmacy, she gave me a look and a reply I have seen and heard many times before: "We no longer have them. Everyone is using cell phones now." Even that block, East 32d Street, hard by Penn Station, featuring all the large camera and photo supply stores, has undergone change--with more expected shortly. I would be forced to use the internet, whether I wanted to or not.

Edited September 12, 2022 by Quintus Arrius
Die polishing to spiff things up a bit.

[VKurtB]

On 9/12/2022 at 2:26 PM, Quintus Arrius said:

When I asked a young clerk where the disposable cameras were kept in a local CVS pharmacy, she gave me a look and a reply I have seen and heard many times before: "We no longer have them. Everyone is using cell phones now." Even that block, East 32d Street, hard by Penn Station, featuring all the large camera and photo supply stores, has undergone change--with more expected shortly. I would be forced to use the internet, whether I wanted to or not.

B&H is my “go to”. Literally. The last time I bought gear, I went there. 

[Henri Charriere]

On 9/12/2022 at 4:15 PM, VKurtB said:

B&H is my “go to”. Literally. The last time I bought gear, I went there. 

Totally slipped my mind. They've got that corner of the market nailed down.

[VKurtB]

On 9/12/2022 at 3:18 PM, Quintus Arrius said:

Totally slipped my mind. They've got that corner of the market nailed down.

I picked up a tripod there while my then lady friend (now wife) waited for our lunch to be served at Penn Station. We then took the LIRR to the junction for JFK Airport for our Nov./Dec. 2019 trip to the U.K. It was Thanksgiving Day and B&H was open. 

[Henri Charriere]

It is my understanding the Royal Mint will continue to use Queen Elizabeth's likeness on British coins. But then I've read there was a run on local banks there to pick up coins and crisp new currency. What to make of it?

[VKurtB]

On 9/12/2022 at 6:19 PM, Quintus Arrius said:

What to make of it?

A hat? A broach? A pterodactyl?

Edited September 13, 2022 by VKurtB

[Henri Charriere]

On 9/12/2022 at 8:09 PM, VKurtB said:

A hat? A broach? A pterodactyl?

Letter-perfect response, as usual. Maybe an errant trilobite?  I read an item that reports the Perth mint has sold more gold than the U.S. mint. Not sure of the time trilogies?. A bit of trivia.

[Henri Charriere]

On 9/8/2022 at 8:01 AM, The Neophyte Numismatist said:

LET IT DIE - Please! 

Relax, just exploring the possibilities...