J P M

Details coin with all that damage. Not worth any premium in my book. 

On 11/6/2023 at 4:41 AM, dprince1138 said:

Thank you for the post bumps.

No answers to our questions , I guess........ Orson Welles  perhaps would say ..............There will be no reply's before there time . Oh well . I am more than happy to work with new members but if there are only posts and no reply's it is not much help. Sorry dprince1138

I think the OP is looking to resell these coins and using this forum for justification to ask for the higher prices. There is saying us old guys use a lot.

( You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear )

On 11/5/2023 at 1:39 AM, Lem E said:

Got this 85 proof today and when I entered it into the system the reverse image was a Morgan. I thought that was kinda funny.

I have seen this coin before. When I bid on a coin I look it up before the bid. A few times I have found . Half's and Morgan's on the reverse  

On 11/4/2023 at 12:12 PM, jimbo27 said:

Yes, I did.

I would do the same, I would want them graded on there own merits. Not on what the other guy says. 

On 11/4/2023 at 7:40 AM, jimbo27 said:

NGC shipped my submission of Top 100 Morgans on Friday. The first four were yellow label ANACS coins and the last one was a raw coin I bought. I will post one coin a day with before and after photos to show how I did. I think I did okay. Hope you enjoy it, jimbo27.

I have to ask. Jimbo. Did you crack them before you sent them in?

I hope all goes well. Kurt

On 11/3/2023 at 9:33 PM, Mr.Bill347 said:

JPM, this is funny..the other day, you were telling us how you were having a tough time finding a mint state Jefferson nickel 2023 D. Well today, I received a solicitation from VFW, ant attached to the letter were 4 brand spanking new Jefferson 2023 D nickels! Not a mark on them! I can send you a couple if you like.

Bill

Thanks for thinking of me Bill. LoL I am all set the 2023 Denver coins are starting too show up more now because it is almost 2024 

Welcome,    Yes it is a small date and no it is not worth grading . It is only worth a cent. 

On 11/4/2023 at 12:58 AM, powermad5000 said:

@J P M are those ice cube trays? If so, that's ingenious imo! Neat way to store them!

Yes they are ice cube trays. They hold the five coins of each year for the state and park quarters easy to sort out and you can stack them to store them neatly. 

On 11/3/2023 at 6:05 PM, VKurtB said:

I never knew these were tough, but I do understand that the circulation version is tougher than the matte version in the uncirculated set. Finding really nice ‘05-‘10 circulation pieces is important for completeness. 

Yes Kurt, The 05-10 coins are not easy to find like these two I posted. I have found some proofs out there but I have never found a SP coin in the wild. That would be a unlikely find IMO. 

On 11/3/2023 at 1:48 PM, edhalbrook said:

JPM what do you look for when going through nickels? O

I look for the smallest amount of damage with clean rims. With nickels it is not easy the edge on a new coin can make marks all over right from the mint bin before they are even bagged up.  

So these may not look like much. but trying to find 2006 Return to Monticello circulated coins in good shape is another cool find.

On 11/3/2023 at 1:36 PM, Lem E said:

This is pulled directly from the mint website from the 2020 mint set page. I don’t see this on any other of the mint set pages for other years.

United States Mint uncirculated coins are struck on special presses using greater force than circulating coins, producing a sharp, intricately detailed image. 
 

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwikv7HVrqiCAxVfjYkEHSmCCsEQFnoECBMQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fcatalog.usmint.gov%2Funcirculated-coin-set-2020-20RJ.html&usg=AOvVaw1Uszgxs427OEy1akcarO_v&opi=89978449
 

 

Wow the older mint sets were coins they found on the bottom of the bin . LoL  just a joke .. But all my old mint set coins are not very nice.

So are you asking for advice on this ungraded coin or telling us your opinion ?

On 11/3/2023 at 12:04 PM, edhalbrook said:

But technically it's the same coin right? Not sure if this is a dumb question but is the coin from a uncirculated set the same as a uncirculated roll coin? I have been putting together a BU nickel set. To get the whole set you would have to split up a set or two. Off the top of my head the 2017 enhanced nickel only came in the set. .  

I would say you are good to go with taking coins from mint sets. Many people do just that to make up coin folders. Uncirculated coin rolls may only be labeled that way unless they are directly from the Mint. Bank rolls are not necessarily uncirculated although you may find some acceptable coins that way . 

On 11/3/2023 at 2:27 AM, EagleRJO said:

Since it's solid and does not seem to be consistent with a die crack, I think it's a corrosion induced solid blister like the attached from error-ref.com, and not a linear plating blister which would be hollow.  At least with how those terms are used on error-ref.com which makes a distinction between the two based on if the blister is solid or hollow.

And a copper plated zinc 1984 (P) Lincoln cent with blisters has no added collector value in either case, regardless of any blister being poped either by checking it too forcefully or from the coin being in circulation. 

Even a die crack is not considered to be valuable, just a neat thing to find .

I never got any kind of a answer to my question. So after seeing the generic response I came to the conclusion  we were just dealing with another (Slick) .  

I do not  need it graded to find out . To me it is priceless.  It is only worth what someone will pay me for it. The worth can be estimated or suggested but in the end it is only worth what it is worth to someone else. I buy graded coins so others will know the worth. Is that answer worthy.

About a year ago I unknowingly purchased a 1861 $2.5  Liberty Head that had previously had a post on it. It was a nice VF 35 in a 2x2 holder and whoever removed the post had filled the hole with gold and did a nice job . You could not see the coin edge until I removed it from the 2x2 when I got it home. Needless to say the coin had lost its numismatic value and I was able to return it and get another gold coin. Sorry to say you Rooster has the same issue. but yours can still be a nice neckless. By the way the other gold coins are very nice looking, and Sandon has given you some excellent information on your items.

On 11/1/2023 at 7:24 PM, EagleRJO said:

What references, die variety books and procedures are you using to authenticate them?  And I doubt you could even see the die indicators given the condition of most the coins and the usual poor photos.  Even then a layperson can be easily fooled by some of the counterfeits.

And with that coin it would need to be submitted to a TPG for attribution in order to add any collector value, and in such a poor condition you would likely spend more on the submittal that it would be worth in the end.  That's the reality of the Etsy coins, and most of the ones on ebay.

I am not sure what dprince is doing ? From the bits and pieces I have heard him talking about it sounds like he looks for odd die characteristics on cheap old coins. Then resells them ungraded with his higher priced evaluation.

Am I close on this guess dprince1138  ? 

On 11/1/2023 at 1:04 AM, dprince1138 said:

Reverse.  Seller asking $247.

 

How do you get the wreath and devices to pop when the field is all scratchy and edges of the coin are almost worn away?