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On 12/17/2023 at 4:36 AM, hr1704 said:Thanks @powermad5000. I've seen the term "stabilized surface" before. Does that mean they just remove the corrosion or do they do something special beyond that? If so, maybe NGC should add a special mark to the slabs to let people know that this coin could be be resistant to further problems after twenty years?
So we all agree that the price I pay for grading should not be related to the grade given. Should I also expect that the quality of work done on conservation is the same whether I pay the fixed $35 for < $3k or the 4% FMV, which could be hundreds of dollars? I'm still not sure how they justify 4% of FMV. Maybe for liability in case they make it worse?
BTW, I'm waiting for a seasoned veteran to chime in with a single-line post like this:
Don't let me down!
OK, never clean your coins.
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It could be multiple effects. If you look at the rim above LIBERTY it is not square it is at a slight angle and the same on the reverse to me that indicates the die or the planchet (maybe a tapered planchet) was tipped a little perhaps due to a lot of grease on both dies. That is my thought for what it is worth. It is still not an error coin worth grading. That is one thing I know for sure.
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I think you are seeing Mechanical doubling on this coin. It is not an easy thing to start out as a new collector looking for error coins. There is a lot to learn in that area you can look for many years without finding any. There is always a lot of hype to get people to look for error coins, and RPM's but the truth is there are not a lot of true error coins out there.
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On 12/15/2023 at 9:03 AM, Just Bob said:
Only that part which has gone past glossy black to dull black. On an album tone coined for example, that color is usually near the rim, since toning starts there and progresses toward the center of the coin. Do you have a picture of Sunnywood's toning progression scale? It explains color progression very well.
To the OP: sorry about getting your thread off topic. It just seemed like a good place to post some information that might be helpful to newbies who read this thread down the road.
I don't think you are off topic when discussing toning seeing he asked if it was terminal. That term would indicate a toning question in my book.
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On 12/15/2023 at 1:13 AM, Just Bob said:
It is hard to follow with all of the off topic posts, but there is a link in the thread to a similar thread on CT that might be easier to keep up with.
Yes, I agree it can get off track, the op was asking about grading and then it turned into nickels also. So to answer the first question from the pictures posted I would say not worth grading. The 1893 can be purchased already graded for around the same price range as grading costs or less many times if you look around.
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It looks good to me. Nice find.
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On 12/13/2023 at 7:13 AM, Bspy107 said:
right now seems not many people are into nickels and the prices are quite low.
I have found that there are more people into nickels and the prices have been getting higher. If you are getting what you are looking for at half price you are doing well. I wish you continued luck. I am about halfway through my registry nickel set and some coins are just too much money for this old guy. Oh and this is my 1893 not as nice as Sandon's
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On 12/13/2023 at 11:39 PM, Endling_King said:
sending in 3 cheerios cents
I am wondering, how does one distinguish a 2000 cheerios sent from a regular cent?
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Hello Kim, the photos are not very clear there could be a die crack in that rim. It would be a neat find but would not add any monetary value to the coin. If you could get some better shots and reorient the coin so it is upright, it would help. Thanks,
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On 12/13/2023 at 12:18 AM, powermad5000 said:
Finding a 30's or 40's nickel in circulation is one thing, but that is a heck of a find in the dirt! I wasn't expecting that when you said quarter.
I don't know if it is worth trying to determine if it is any of the roughly 20 varieties for the year (according to the NGC description for the year, the N-23 is the scarce variety over any of the others).
Yes powermad, it would take some time to find out due to so much corrosion. Has anyone seen a comment by dprince lately. This coin would be just the thing he would eat up with so many varieties.
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Thanks R_Rash. I worked for many years as an electrician here on old Cape Cod and there have been many a old coin found on job sites just laying around One of the carpenters I used to work with decided to buy a nice $4000 detector. I can't say what the homeowners' yards look like, but I think he replaces the divots.
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Well, you do live in Bama now. Some folks don't read to well.
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Thankfully they did not lose them. Have NGC send them USPS First class.
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Yes, it is a cool find. He is an avid golfer, so he is going to use it for a marker. I told him. There is no chance of saving it. but it may look better if he were to soak it in some olive oil for a month. Then use it as you wish.
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A good friend is painting a house in a town called Mashpee it is the home of the Wampanoag Native Americans. Most of the towns are very old where I live. So, he is outside walking to the truck, and he spots an old rusty quarter laying in the black dirt and passes it by. After about two or three times seeing in the dirt, he said ah what the heck and picks it up. After seeing the coin, he gives me a shout
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On 12/12/2023 at 1:59 AM, EagleRJO said:
It's usually one CC sucker ender and than a sucker ender date on the other end which when combined together would be a jackpot. And of course nice shiny BU enders with just common garbage in between.
On 12/12/2023 at 1:46 AM, EagleRJO said:You are very lucky it worked out as that almost never happens.
4 CC is a plus even lowballs are high priced now. I think the seller would have picked that roll out if he knew there were that many.
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I think I do a good enough job at grading coins. But I have no reason to send in any coins to be graded. If I can find it already out there graded for less money than it will cost me, it is just not worth it.
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On 12/11/2023 at 12:59 AM, powermad5000 said:
I have noticed the same thing on mine @EagleRJO and I have no explanation for it. I've tried to look in my profile to see if there was something in there that I needed to "accept" or something, but I, as you, am not concerned with the labeling on my profile. I thought maybe it was the total number of posts but that seems to not be a factor either.
It does bug me though that @Sandon still has a Newbie symbol with his level of overall knowledge which far surpasses mine.
Maybe someone on here with a different symbol can tell us how they were awarded it.
No one knows why, some new marketing upgrade last year changed all the member titles, and no one can answer Y.
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When I buy a coin online, I have to rely on what is pictured. I buy a coin for its look, date and the best price. I think most of us do. Toning is not on my list. Sometimes you get lucky and get a good-looking toned coin without looking for it. I almost skipped over this coin I like blast white Morgans, but It was too nice a price and it looks awesome in hand.
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4.943 Gram 1970 S UNC Jefferson?!?!
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It happens a lot not all are the same. It can swing either way a bit.