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Hello all, I was roll hunting today and found this cull piece. Through the years I have seen quit a few of these1959 dark nickels also termed as Black Beauty's. Most are not and just environmental damage. This one is a maybe? Just for fun, I thought I would post some shots and get some others opinions to see if it looks like one.  

On 10/18/2023 at 12:07 PM, RWB said:

Here's a link to an ebay listing and seller's photo:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/234581357601

So we can request special names for coins through NGC ? This coin is a Masterpiece. Wow. Thanks Roger for finding that because we are always saying you can't make up your own fancy names for a coin. I guess you can....It is listed only as a error. https://www.ngccoin.com/certlookup/6566572-454/Other/

Mike, If the coins you have are in NGC or PCGS holders I would think they are ok. Most large auction houses have there own coin experts to cover there butts. Now if you are picking up raw coins at estate auctions then that is a different story. You would have to be able do your own assessment's of the coins .  

On 10/16/2023 at 9:46 PM, KoyMihn said:

Nice cent but we can not say anything without better pictures. As Sandon said. I will suggest putting your phone on top of a soda can with the coin in view. then zooming to fill the screen with the coin to the edges. I have a old S8 Samsung and it will take good shots with this method . Like this 

Without holding it in my hand it looks like PMD .The edge from the number one all the way around to the mint mark looks to be dished out including the remainder of the date with displaced metal pushed toward the bust and to the edge of the rim. It may have been a grease or week strike to start with but it has gone round and round on coin roller or something somewhere for a while. It has been around long enough to smooth out so no one will ever know for sure. That's my 25 cents worth 

On 10/15/2023 at 5:44 PM, Twomanycoins said:

Adding one additional pic.

It looks like I would just keep all that information with the coin. It is a real 210 year old coin with a certification number saying it is to damaged to put in a Certified Holder unless you want to pay more money. Here is the link to your coin. 

https://www.ngccoin.com/certlookup/2251182-001/Other/

On 10/16/2023 at 1:07 AM, Mike Meenderink said:

Something seems off with this coin. @Sandon

The coin looks like it has been polished a lot.

On 10/15/2023 at 4:34 PM, Dragon Mike said:

 

Not a waste of time , We just can't  see a coin posted.

Ya, leeg has some sweet coins, having both star and + is a tough one to come up with.

I  have never heard of that term for a Cent. Is it some YouTube hype for a collectable coin ?  Just asking ?

Also if it says free returns and shipping is a good sign.

Good looking cents. 

On 10/14/2023 at 3:10 PM, EagleRJO said:

Sweet talking the bank girls again!  

They like me I guess. or they like the big coins less

Another trip to the bank today and asked if they had any strange coins they wanted to part with? One girl said I have 19 of them if you want. I said sure. LoL

I got one silver out of the batch. At melt It is almost worth what I paid for the whole of them.

On 10/13/2023 at 11:11 PM, powermad5000 said:

I do have an 1865 3CN with a Retained Die break. Unfortunately it is an Unc Details coin because it was cleaned. It could be possible a die fragment broke off and got in the strike but came out after the dies lifted. I know there seem to be less cracked dies and clashed dies from about 1869 and moving forward, but this series seems to have been plagued with die issues throughout.

It could be a hardened piece of grease . A strike through can be a one time thing a lot of times it is gone after the first hit .   

I agree it was mounted in a bezel and then coated with a sealer of some kind.

I just looked up your coin with the numbers and it was listed. There is no photo but it has information. Also wanted to say...Very nice coin ...

It looks to have the strike of a very worn out die, that is all ,Sorry .....Not a error 

QA I for one think you should not be even asking about this stuff. We try to discourage the new people from doing any more damage than is all ready being pushed around the internet.  

Thank you for the heads up Sandon. I will have to see if I have any of the type 1 coins. Not that I would break the set but good value factor to know about. Maybe slip a note in the envelope for the kids so they will know.