Woods020

I can see the modwriter’s lowball registry now

Oh no I didn’t mean you. You’re grading comments are just for laughs.

Why would time and energy be spent to, at best, create a system for educated guesses on causes of environmental damage? It’s damaged. It’s not like acid damage will be seen as better than corrosion damage. Other than you fulfilling your need to over orate is there really a point to this at all?

Welding rod burn it appears to me

😂 Sure. This is post is well written and clearly we are “kind of the retarded side”.

Moral of the story: pack it well, insure it, ship certified or similar and you will be fine. No concerns when in TPG possession.

Does anyone know if this is a new variety recognized by NGC? I don’t know the series that well. It is strange that they have only graded 3 with FBL in type 2. I just don’t know if type 2 is rare or if the variety just isn’t a concern for collectors in the series.

The newer cents are very susceptible to zinc bubbles due to their composition. It looks like zinc bubbles. If not they are die chips. Either way not an error.

One piece of information for the OP that may be useful is that this appears to be a cast piece. It could have been cast from a mold of the variety you mention. Then it would take on some of the characteristics of the original variety albeit crudely.

Two things to keep in mind on top of these have low collector appeal: 1. Just because they are rolled, even if not circulated, doesn’t mean they will necessarily grade better than low/mid MS. These coins take a beating after striking and in the bags. Possible some grade high but by no means a guarantee. 2. Just because this is rolled doesn’t mean it hasn’t been circulated. They re roll coins all the time for banks. You can carefully open the roll and take a look. No prize for it still being in the roll so you can inspect them. You lose nothing if you are careful.

I stand corrected. I do see where NGC has it listed now. They only show 3 graded with that variety period with all at MS64. I wonder if it’s a case of people not paying the additional variety fee on this because it may not be worth it? I’m not sure. There are much higher grades that do not have that variety.

You can get an approximate value in a couple ways. Both NGC and PCGS have price guides. Pay attention to realized auction prices and not the guide price. You can also look at sold listings on eBay and other auction houses like heritage or great collections. However I’m not sure where you are getting that MS64 FBL is a top pop? It’s far from it. And 1959 is a fairly common year for FBL. Looks like recent auctions are going for $40 or $45 dollars. I don’t see where a distinction is made in the price guides. I know type 2 is a variety recognized by NGC, but not sure if or how much premium it may add.

Agreed. Looks like it took a hit

It was YouTube “numismatists” in my opinion. For some reason within the last few years videos have become prevalent about “getting rich from pocket change” or “coins worth a lot of money”. This is a popular one they hype.

Franklin halves are heart breakers. I’m no grading expert regardless, but these will drive you nuts getting them graded. It’s a shoot to say the least. I started on the series and got frustrated so I paused. I think they are fine looking coins but the grading is too erratic. I’ve seen many people say this as well.

No problem. The short answer is no it doesn’t add value and most consider it damage. However, some people do collect these. But if you think about it something like a 5 you could stamp in your garage.

It says Ingle. As I understand it Ingle systems was a leading manufacturer of these tokens.

Vkurt I believe there is something to this. When I was looking at it cobalt was definitely what I was thinking. I’m no metallurgist by any means, but that does make sense judging by the way it looks.

When you post coins for inquiry you should post a picture of both sides and ask a question to let members know what you are looking for. If this is a genuine 1904, it has been counter stamped. It didn’t leave the mint like that but someone added it. It’s damaged.

When you say “supposed to be some doubling” what do you mean?

There are a couple slightly doubled dies in the eyelids. I think it’s probably this one. But you can look on Variety Vista at the others as well. http://www.varietyvista.com/01a LC Doubled Dies Vol 1/1943PDDO007.htm

This is a great place to learn. I’ve learned a ton from the fine folks on here. Look forward to helping if we can.

I’m by no means the authority, but I’m pretty sure this is damage. I don’t see any Blakesley effect and the missing porting seems to be slightly irregular and not perfectly straight. Others will give you an expert opinion.