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On 8/8/2021 at 4:04 PM, Quintus Arrius said:

@J P Mashoke

Here's a plausible back-story:  Note your coin (nee a "Proof") is in acceptable condition for its age which suggests its owner, initially taken by the novelty of the dual-date, held on to it hoping it would appreciate in value. But it did not.  I suspect the reason you found this coin explains why I have over a hundred [unsearched] dual-dated Ikes still sitting on top of my file cabinet the details of which can be seen on each roll's end suggesting someone kept them when they were first introduced hoping for a decent return on investment, and when that failed to materialize, redeemed them, BU Flawless or not, for face value.  I still don't know what I should do with them. (Not a day goes by my roosters harp on me to get rid of them.)   🐓

You may want to take a second look at some of those Ike's with a Loop before you get rid of them. There are a few worth more than face value. The Bicentennial is not as nice as you think a USB scope only shows straight on quality not a true look Here are 2 angle shots that show the scratches more. It is still a cool find.

Well today I found my first Proof coin while roll hunting. To bad it got so scratched up in circulation it is still in good shape it is loosing its mirrored background.

Happens all the time some coins just get lucky sometimes, a grader looking at them misses something or what we think is awful is acceptable in Numismatic Grading . I remember my brother-in-law got a job at the lumber yard in sales department of paint ! He was Color Blind and Legally Blind he had glasses like the lens of a telescope but he could sell anything to anyone

That looks like a Rim mark above the( IN ) looks like it may have a milk spot also on the lower left of the gown also.

Looks close to this http://www.varietyvista.com/05 JN RPMs/1958DRPM001.htm But it has also been kicking around for 63 years

Wow , I'm sorry Bill, I will stop posting the stuff I find.................. well at least you got some really cool looking coins I like it all .I find it amazing that of all the dimes out there you picked the same year as one of the coins I keep on my desk ( yours is nicer ).Great minds think alike . Remember Bill coins are not like donuts they wont go bad or rot away. 

On 8/7/2021 at 12:06 PM, RWB said:

See the article "U.S. Mint & Nazi Gold, Merkers Kaiseroda Salt Mine Treasure, June to August 1945," in Journal of Numismatic Research, Summer 2013, Issue #3.

All that loot , and that was just one of many,

On 8/7/2021 at 8:48 AM, RWB said:

The roosters, sovereigns, lira, etc were cycled through economies, melted, recoined into something else, bought, sold, and used for jewelry, plating 50 State quarters, contacts in your computer, etc. The form changed, but 29 million oz are mostly still around.

I would think when Germany took over France before WWII they made off with a lot of items also.

I have a MS 64 that looks a lot worst than that one, I think you did ok after all it is a 64. She has a beauty mark or a age spot depending on you outlook in life and maybe you will find another girl to replace her one day it if it bothers you. 

I would have to say I have never seen Quintus Coin Collection of Roosters But I would think it must be a bit more than a collection of Bullion coins  

On 8/4/2021 at 9:52 PM, James Zyskowski said:

I started with one of these I think I paid less but it was a pretty good way to have them all in a  set. The bu’s can get pricey but I do like them. I heard there’s something like &1.25-$1.45 melt each

Well so far all the War Nickels I have gotten are MS 60 and up so I think I may wait a bit before I melt them. but thanks for the information James, and the price chart is cool to for a reference Bob thanks.

Found a nice big die crack on a 2006 LMC not that it is worth anything just cool to find. It is comparable to a  2006 DDO-002
2-O-VIII 

Really cool , Thanks Mike

There is a note saying the color changed after a restrike to a more red color. Hmm.. Red Roosters

On 8/3/2021 at 7:40 PM, Quintus Arrius said:

@J P Mashoke

I have a feeling the book your daughter bought for you was opened, propped up and photographed specifically to taunt me.  

In all fairness, I must admit you have succeeded beyond your wildest dreams.

Technically, the 1907-1914 line are called "restrikes." The French call them "rrdistributed" coins and note some were minted in 1921 with the rest minted during the 1950's and 1960's.  That page, which does not provide mintage figures for 1907-1910, only deepens the mystery.  In fact the entire Rooster series, whatever the reason, is shrouded in mystery.

I am greatly indebted to you for providing yet another glimpse of this enduring mystery.   🐓

 I did pick that page for you Quintus in hopes that you would like it...I can take some more photo's and post them here if you would like to see more of those pages Quintus, remember it is a Redbook from 1968 mostly just prices and photo's

On 8/3/2021 at 7:40 PM, J P Mashoke said:

Almost every MS 60 through MS 68 I have seen will have some marks of one kind or another 69 and 70 are almost perfect but I have seen marks on 69 and 70s also

So in comparison they are very close to there marked grade I think

On 8/3/2021 at 6:58 PM, Jason Abshier said:

I’ve seen a few handful of Morgans graded out MS60 , even saw a few PL60 as well … strange grade it’s either high upper AU condition but not good enough to be a MS61 . Most a 60 looks like it has a lot of contact and distracting bag marks I’ve only seen Morgans in this grade however I haven’t looked at other coins in 60 grade I’m sure every coin series has them 

Almost every MS 60 through MS 68 I have seen will have some marks of one kind or another 69 and 70 are almost perfect but I have seen marks on 69 and 70s also

On 8/3/2021 at 7:17 PM, dleonard-3 said:

Mint sets are made up of circulation strike coins.  Proof sets are made up of Proof struck coins.  The term "mint set" usually refers to circulation strike coin sets.

I stand corrected I said I don't think they are from a mint set because mint sets did not start until 1947 according to the Redbook 

On 8/3/2021 at 6:44 PM, Quintus Arrius said:

@J P Mashoke

I agree with you... to a point.  Then again, if they originated from a mint set, you've done very well.  (In fact, I have never seen an MS-60 assigned any coin in my entire life.)

An interesting conglomeration whose flaws has me completely flummoxed.

 Thanks Quintus,  During the WW2 they stopped making proof sets in 1942 and did not start again until 1950. So I don't think they are from a mint set These are War nickels stamped with a extra large Mint Mark over Monticello with 56% Copper, 35% Silver, 9% Manganese the mint had hopes to collect them back after the war and the large MM would make them more noticeable to gather up ? or so the story goes. Also all of my NGC and PCGS slab coins are MS 60 or higher 

On 7/16/2021 at 11:45 AM, J P Mashoke said:

I picked up a couple of War Nickels today may be from a old mint set. I paid book for them no deals this time but I really wanted a couple of MS looking War Nickels. Real nice luster on these, but still hard to believe they graded so high there are still dings and marks. Still they are nicer than the old ones I have that are worn out LoL  

I picked up a two more war nickels today to go with my P collection . They are in Joe's Garage Holders as a 1943-P MS 63 and a 1944-P MS 60  they are in PCGS look alike holders from Coin World they even stack with a PCGS holder. The dealer is a guy that has been around forever and I think they are real close to what he graded them at I have compared them to my PCGS MS 65 and MS 66 and they look just as good. Take a look and let me know what you all think ? 

Now here we have a work of ART I think could be a Van Go...  Like a Van Go over this penny many times in the parking lot.  I think we can get a good price for it with the Joker smile on Lincoln and on the reverse the large chicken to the right side of Lincoln on the steps is a nice extra. 

This was the best looking one but it still looks more like a 63 64 65 the hair is more worn than yours. It has a nice Adams apple but my Monticello is in rough shape. 

On 7/31/2021 at 9:59 PM, Lem E said:

Believe it or not, that 1960 P MS655FS coin has a NGC value of $1800 and the 1960 D at MS67 is $500. I would really go through that roll JP and see if you have anything that looks good. 

Ya Lem I may have to look again. The price drops off so fast a MS 65 is $30 not worth grading a 65 or less a MS66 is $130 it is hard to judge with all the bag contact marks it may be tough to find a 67 but I will pick the ones that I think will grade 66 or 67 and post it and see what you guys think