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On 8/14/2021 at 5:17 PM, Mohawk said:

You could also post it in the Ask NGC/NCS section.....you may have better luck getting Mr. Lange's attention in that thread.

I posted it there also 

On 8/14/2021 at 4:49 PM, Fenntucky Mike said:

Not sure what it would be worth, is it on the same level as a delamination or clipped planchet.  If it less common it could be worth more. I'm not sure if it's worth grading but it wouldn't hurt to ask NGC if they would attribute such an error. Nice find JP! 

Yes maybe Mr. D.W. Lange From NGC or Mark Feld from Heritage will see this thread and give it a look see. There are a few other regulars here that may have a guess also. It is a cool looking coin no matter what the outcome. 

They did not start putting the 1965 sets together until 1966 it is said. So did they restart the 1965 presses and make new coins of all denominations in 1966 or did they go in the back room and grab the better looking coins sitting in storage and start making poly wrap sets up??? 

On 8/13/2021 at 3:31 PM, gmarguli said:

Here is what the Director of the Mint said on the insert that went with all 1965 SMS sets. Special Mint Sets are made from specially prepared and polished blanks and struck on high tonnage presses with polished dies. This statement directly contradicts what you are stating. Special Planchets + Special Dies + Special Press = Special Mint Sets.

 

You are free to argue that the Mint Director was lying, but anyone who has ever seen a 1965 SMS can easily tell that the coins are better struck and more prooflike than business strikes. The look of the coins match exactly what the Director wrote, not what you have been stating. 

And we all know the Government never lie's

On 8/13/2021 at 1:38 AM, GBrad said:

I'm going to right now...... standby.....

Just emailed the guy.....

what is your lowest takin price for this cool pennie?  I have been a long tim cullecter and have nevur seen something like this I don’t have a lot of monie so can u please werk with me. thanks u.

https://portland.craigslist.org/clk/clt/d/castle-rock-rare-penny1-of-kind-lots-of/7362994373.html

You know what would be funny is if this guy is a collector like us and is tired of all the junk being sold on-line and is doing this as a spoof also................. 

Someone really should make a offer on it before it gets away. 

Not sure it would get a MS with the corrosion  maybe AU

On 8/12/2021 at 8:08 PM, CoinsRCool78 said:

Please don’t tell me that I created grudges against veterans!

This is normal. If we weren't so darn fussy we sure wouldn't be coin collectors

 Found this nice Peace Medal Nickel in a roll today. I don't find these to often. 

I'm no expert 1870 brown may be worth a few bucks. It looks a bit worn on one side hard to tell from the pictures I would hang on to it .

On 8/10/2021 at 8:53 PM, Woods020 said:

65 is arguably not done very well,

Ya Woods  I know my set is better than a BS strike but not by much. All the sets I have of years before are much nicer strikes. I think the mint was just trying to cover there butt with the 65 sets and made up for it in the 66 and 67 strikes( Just My Opinion ) The Redbook write-up is a little different than PCGS but does say the SMS coins were polished dies but they let the coins hit each other so that's why they have bag marks.. ??.. Well that's kinda counter productive... sounds like a song and dance. Who knows ? only the ones who were there working at the mint really know for sure     

Well I gave the old girl a bath in some soapy hot water for a while she is a little cleaner but not good enough to take her to the prom dance. Maybe a movie where it is a little darker.  

On 8/9/2021 at 4:30 PM, CoinsRCool78 said:

Just curious

 

But going back to the OP I would think you will get a 65 66 a 67 or 68  may be pushing the limit. But it would be cool but then it would be worth a lot of money. 

On 8/10/2021 at 6:15 PM, gmarguli said:

The same way you "prove" that a specially minted coin from any other era is a specially minted coin and not a business strike. You compare it to the characteristics of known examples. I suspect with the SMS coins they could compare it to known dies if they wanted to waste the time. However, it's much easier to look at the strike, surfaces, and luster in order to come up with a conclusion. We know what a SMS example should generally look like. We know what the business strike coins generally look like. We can make a determination based on this knowledge.

How about this coin? I assume you view it as MS since it was removed from the set and there are not mint marks on the coin.

That would be a DCAM Proof Best guess... Nice coin by the way  but a SMS is a business strike put together in 1966 at the mint for us fussy collectors that kept complaining a lot after they took our coin sets away after 1964 . The only thing I can see that makes it special is the blue poker chip  the coins are nice but not proof like they don't even have FS Nickels or FT dimes they are just coins in plastic wrap with a piece of paper saying Special Mint Set.

On 8/10/2021 at 5:23 PM, RWB said:

...and that misrepresents both quality and population.

Once it is removed I feel it is no longer part of a set. It becomes a MS coin How do you prove it is from a  Mint set once it is removed there are no mint marks on the coins.

On 8/9/2021 at 10:19 PM, Woods020 said:

The 83 has VF20 wear, but I agree I think those dings are big enough to make it damaged. It’s cruddy but in no way is the wear G or VG. The dings kill you. 
 

The 12 I would say is a VG-10. 
 

These may be good candidates for a little acetone bath to get rid of some of the crud. 

Ya Woods they are definitely cruddy they may get a bath seeing they are not worth a whole lot of money anyway. 

On 8/9/2021 at 9:32 PM, RWB said:

Theoe resemble 1950s circulation pulls or "grab bag" material.

Yes RWB I did get them from the grab box LoL..They were cheep a few bucks a piece and if I break even or loose it's short money. I check Grab boxes all the time. Whenever I get the chance to get a first year and a last year in a series I will pick them up. After that who knows what will happen .. My first ASE was a 1986 and a 2021 now I have all of them, Silly me...

Ya James ..I think the obverse on the 1912 makes it a 6 and the 1883 a 15 with the dings in it I am thinking.

On 8/9/2021 at 4:19 PM, James Zyskowski said:

Those seem like pretty good grades I worry about the 1912 but only the obverse. I think your about right 🤓

On 8/9/2021 at 12:01 PM, GBrad said:

Hey JP, do you have any idea how long it took me to come up with that and I'm hoping I used the words correctly after researching them all  (I was waiting on someone to comment) !!!!!   No joke... some of the verbiage QA uses forces me to pull out the Meriam Websters.... As a result, my vocabulary has expanded!!!  Thanks QA!

 Yes I agree ...I love reading Quintus's posts sometimes they make me kick back and ............SAY WHAT.......

I think it would only be a SMS if it was still in the 1965 SMS mint set ? 

So I picked up two Liberty Nickels today or V nickels we used to call them.   The first year (No CENTS) 1883 and the last year 1912  I would please ask for some opinions on what grade you all would think they may be? Don't be shy I want honest T not sweet T

I am looking maybe a 15 - 25 for the 1883 and a 6 - 10 for the 1912 

On 8/9/2021 at 12:11 AM, GBrad said:

I can only assume that this as a compliment???  One day I would like to get inside of your head and, by simple osmosis, become one, and at total peace with, your patois and argot terminology......... You have unknowingly, and unintentionally (which I am appreciative of, with all due respect... I think..), broadened my vernacular and patter of speech with your colloquialism approach to the English language.  Sincerely,

GBrad 

Holy shmoly GBrad you sound like Quintus

I was finally able to find enough 2021 Quarters to finish off my Warman's book today I got 5 of them in a roll from the bank. It has been a long time since I found the last one they must be hiding