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Two new NGC graded coins I recently acquired. The half dime I haven't properly imaged yet. These are for sale :-)

Two new NGC graded coins I recently acquired. The half dime I haven't properly imaged yet. These are for sale :-)

A new one I just got in. A variety on a variety is always fun. Pics aren’t great I screen shot them from my website on my phone. 

My friend has some amazing subject matter to work with so it truly is a pleasure to work with his coins.

Because it looks different than what they are used to; they aren't very familiar with coins; they want to check with knowledgeable people before they just go off half-cocked and send it in. In short, because they are being prudent and sensible. And since they are not debating with us, they are benefiting from the opinions and using good sense.

Mr. Franklin: Relief on a coin - portrait, lettering, etc. - is always slightly "V" shaped when viewed on edge. This allows the coin to release from the dies. It also means that as the design wears during circulation, wider parts of letters and other relief become visible as the top layers of metal are worn off.
The cent posted is entirely normal, although it might possibly be some barely-visible variety of no added value.

I occasionally see them listed as “errors” for sale. Usually with a nice long story about how it’s a super rare typo. Always makes me laugh. Sadly someone may be buying these “rarities”

I’m at a show in Chattanooga TN this weekend, and picked up this beauty today. Nicest 09-S VDB I have ever owned for sure. Pay no attention to my quick cell phone snaps. 
 
@Coinbuf I thought of you when I was walking away with it 

Philly is not doing tours yet.  I have checked often.

Joseph I have to agree with the others I’m just not seeing anything out of the ordinary with any of your coins. 
 
When comparing your coin to others years/mints I assume you are saying yours has the same characteristics, therefore yours should also be a doubled die. First I fundamentally haven’t seen anything resembling a doubled die on your coins, but I will also admit pictures are tough to verify from. Assuming I and others are incorrect you would have to get the variety attributed, as Coinbuf said, by Coneca or a similar attribution. The TPGs won’t just create a new variety. So if you are dead set on your coins being something special I suggest you post them on the Coneca chat board. I am very confident the answers will be the same, but atleast you would have a second opinion from collectors and professionals that live for varieties. 

Here is the link to Coneca’s website in case you want it. 
 
https://conecaonline.org
 
Also let’s use the wheat stalks on the reverse of the coins you have. Do you notice how the more worn they become the wider and flatter they become? Wouldn’t that explain what you are seeing on the obverse lettering as well?
 
 

Joseph I have to agree with the others I’m just not seeing anything out of the ordinary with any of your coins. 
 
When comparing your coin to others years/mints I assume you are saying yours has the same characteristics, therefore yours should also be a doubled die. First I fundamentally haven’t seen anything resembling a doubled die on your coins, but I will also admit pictures are tough to verify from. Assuming I and others are incorrect you would have to get the variety attributed, as Coinbuf said, by Coneca or a similar attribution. The TPGs won’t just create a new variety. So if you are dead set on your coins being something special I suggest you post them on the Coneca chat board. I am very confident the answers will be the same, but atleast you would have a second opinion from collectors and professionals that live for varieties. 

When you are ready @Coinbuf or I can connect you with him. He hangs out ATS. 

For $500 you can have a setup that will work for most things you will want to do. Before you pull the trigger we can chat. A few things I would do differently and a few ways you can lower your cost potentially. But for now I would budget $500 as a base price. You can go up or down from there depending on options. 

Last I heard no the mint was not doing tours.
Yep we each got one blank cent planchet.  

The US Mints were among the most popular tourist attractions in Philadelphia and San Francisco. They were not only similar to many factories, but they held unimaginable wealth that people could see being handled as if it were blocks of scrap metal.

The 1880s were an especially rich period for newspaper articles about the mints and for photos of operations. Although most photos were awful - poor lighting, blurring, lens flare, limited dynamic range, posed rather than candid - publications had prints made, and illustrators then copied and "improved" them into the engravings commonly seen in publications of the time. (Compare Johnston's photo originals to illustrations made from them.)

George G. Evans was able to gain a virtual concession at the Philadelphia Mint. His book on the mint was sold to visitors on-site just as were proof sets, dime-size Lord's Prayer tokens and other souvenirs. Except for proof sets and Mint medals, the "Conductors" split the profits on books and tokens. This resulted in some overly aggressive selling, and letters of complaint. Here's an example from May 26, 1885.


Complaint has been made that a guide who conducts visitors through the Mint Building presents a medal made for the Louisville Exposition which he claims to be gold and gives to visitors, but to those only who purchase a book [Evans'] which he offers for sale.

As the Conductors are paid for their services they ought not to annoy visitors by importuning them to buy articles in their possession they may have for sale; and if on inquiry you find any cause for the complaint, please take such action to prevent it as you deem for the interests and reputation of the service.
It is not widely known among coin collectors, but the San Francisco Mint had a nice cabinet of locally produced coins and private gold pieces, plus a full set of U.S. Mint medals on display along with ore samples from western states. Records, if they still exist, are at NARA San Bruno.

Here's a letter about the number of visitors for FY 1896 at Philadelphia:

Philadelphia
June 30, 1896
The number of persons from all parts of the United States, and in fact the World, who
have visited, and have been escorted through the Mint, and witnessed the coining of money, and
the other work done under your supervision, during the Fiscal year, ending 30th June were One
hundred and five thousand, three hundred and eighty four, 105,384.

Joseph I have to agree with the others I’m just not seeing anything out of the ordinary with any of your coins. 
 
When comparing your coin to others years/mints I assume you are saying yours has the same characteristics, therefore yours should also be a doubled die. First I fundamentally haven’t seen anything resembling a doubled die on your coins, but I will also admit pictures are tough to verify from. Assuming I and others are incorrect you would have to get the variety attributed, as Coinbuf said, by Coneca or a similar attribution. The TPGs won’t just create a new variety. So if you are dead set on your coins being something special I suggest you post them on the Coneca chat board. I am very confident the answers will be the same, but atleast you would have a second opinion from collectors and professionals that live for varieties. 

Here is the link to Coneca’s website in case you want it. 
 
https://conecaonline.org
 
Also let’s use the wheat stalks on the reverse of the coins you have. Do you notice how the more worn they become the wider and flatter they become? Wouldn’t that explain what you are seeing on the obverse lettering as well?
 
 

I'm sorry but you cannot use coins minted at different mints and different years as a way to prove you have something, it does not work that way.   Also I see zero resemblance from your 1958 to the 1958-D you have linked at Variety Vista, not identical in any way.   You are free to disagree and also free to send in your coin to have it authenticated, but you will be wasting your money, you do not have a DDO on your 1958 P cent.
 
Edited to add: in case you are not aware as there is only the one DDO for 1958 you would have to have your coin verified as a discovery coin before it could be sent in to a TPG like NGC for grading and authentication.

Im not seeing it. Looks like a regular cent. It dosent look like the ddo from variety vista to me. 

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A new one I just got in. A variety on a variety is always fun. Pics aren’t great I screen shot them from my website on my phone. 

The problem is your coins and pictures are so darn nice it leaves everyone wanting to have that 😂