Jason Abshier

53 minutes ago, J P Mashoke said:

That is a beautiful coin Jason .. Does it have to be Graded and in a slab to be a 68,69 or 70. Just thought I would ask .I have a commemorative from the mint in it's own case would it be considered MS 67 or higher in anyone here's opinion.   

My Tuvalu coin doesn’t have to be graded , I like my coins in slabs I bought my good luck charm in slab at that time for $80 it came with 70 grade I couldn’t find any in 69 grade not that grade mattered to me I got the box and papers with it as well .... as for modern commemorative coins I just started collecting them I’m only get them in NGC 69 grades (I can’t see myself sending them in raw for grading when I can get most of them for under $50) save myself hassle I just buy them graded ,so far I got 1983 Olympic set P, D, S and S proof gonna take me awhile probably a good few years to collect all 140+ coins from 1983-2021 . I’m just collecting them for fun taking a break from collecting my classic series of Morgan’s , walkers ,Mercury dimes and world coins 

Boy Scout coin is a nice design I like that one , if you send it in probably get MS69 as most are but hey if I wanted a 70 grade that bad , I buy 69 put a small piece of white tape over grade write 70 on it put it under my pillow it helps me sleep better at night knowing I’m part of the “70’s collector’s club” ... 

7 hours ago, GoldFinger1969 said:

Gotcha....I have a few....I buy 'em every now and then....I love the NGC slabs and labels.....but since I am basically buying 1 oz. of silver in a PF69 or PF70 condition, I also look at stuff like the National Park Saint-Gaudens commemoratives and the Wedge-Tailed Eagle coins.  Plus an occasional odd and end minted by the Royal Mint, UK Mint, or Perth Mint.

I have couple coins from Perth mint they make some odd cool stuff ! I got 1 graded by PCGS a Tuvalu rotating “good luck” charm with rotating ball in middle of the coin , also have “ying yang” rotating charm as well I haven’t sent them for grading yet maybe some day . I rarely dabble my feet in the modern coin market ... yeah, yeah I know it’s a PCGS coin it would look better in an NGC holder for sure 

1 hour ago, Morpheus1967 said:

Why is it a joke?  Because you, personally, do not like to collect 70's?

I just don’t believe in all the hype between 69 and 70 . Unless you send in large bulk submission token for your thank you you’ll get a 70 or two out of a bunch there really no difference between the two grades I’ve seen a few MS68s I could see why they gotten that grade due to milk spots on the coin . I can see people collecting 70’s for registry I guess if they love it then do it 

5 hours ago, GoldFinger1969 said:

Are we talking about NGC-slabbed U.S. Mint stuff like ASE's which technically could be used in commerce....or private stock "coins" like the National Park Foundation Saint-Gaudens Commemoratives ?

I was talking about the yearly business strike/proof strike commemorative silver dollars 1983-present 

Just show you the big players are so sure ! They will have enough PF70 grades to meet the demands for anyone who wants pay out the cash before they are even released to public ... PF69 and PF70 is a joke on modern market to each their own drink the kool-aid you like 

I used to see them at shows all time on dealer tables I use to pass them up never bothered to stop see what they really look like ,they would make a pretty cool series of coins to put together they are plentiful in MS69 and PF69 grade just a little over melt price not so bad given a lot of them have a lower mintage compared to yearly ASE issue ... Maybe 30-40 years from now they will be appreciated more who knows 

I don’t come on here much , I been thinking about taking a break from my Morgan, Mercury, walker , classic commemorative , world coins , and start collecting something “modern” commemorative coins $1 silver coins  I’m gonna try get them all in NGC which should easy in grade MS69 and PF69 ... I’m not Interested buying MS70 and PF70 I don’t see a difference in 69 VS 70 at all other than price tag difference .I’m not in for registry set or looking for money I just like the designs each year issue something different to collect for fun was just curious if anyone else been collecting the same ? 

I had a guy at work that was obsessed with get gold dollars out of candy machine he would dump $5 bill in to get 5 coins back he would always ask me is this Cheerio eagle ? I had tell him no hundred of times ! He actually amassed $300 in gold dollars (however he did find three “W” quarters in coffee machine as work) he was pretty excited about it ... But anyways on the Cheerio reverse 1999 eagle the middle tail feathers are more detailed and defined on a regular issue like you have the tail feathers are smoother in middle very few Cheerio eagles were made needle in haystack to find 

That thing so fake ! On heavy drinking night with one eye barely open I’d be able to spot that fake all the way across other side of the room. I’ve seen little kids draw better than that 

Few weeks ago my sister ordered something on eBay she said there some scammers on ebays selling products you pay for they show it shipped to your house (ghost package) she never received she was out of $200 however she contacted ebay they wouldn’t help her it shows she got her package they sided with the seller mostly all the time however she contacted FedEx they said they weren’t able to give out the (senders name) there wasn’t a package at all anyways,  it was confusing the seller closed their account to cover up their tracks seems like 2020-2021 all scammers are taking advantage of people . I’d be ticked of furious if this was a coin I paid a lot for it never came in the mail however hard lesson learn for my sister don’t do business with low rating sellers , what’s a shame it makes it harder for a true honest new ebay seller to gain reputation when there a bunch of scammers all over ebay screwing people over .

I hope you get your situation fixed seems likes there are dirty scammers on both sides buyer and sellers ebay and PayPal need take more responsibility in this matter $2,000 and no coin was shipped back to you ? That’s Bulls**t sounds real fishy Ebay would do that to you 

5 minutes ago, JKK said:

If you ever want a sector you will never fully master in this lifetime, there's always ancients and the Islamic world. Just when one thinks one is getting a handle, another complexity bubbles to the surface.

Agree ! World coins are very complexing there so many of them out there no way we can hands on all of them ... I do like designs on some of these older world coins it amazes me designers were that crafty getting fine details into set of dies back that then , hands down some of best designs I’ve ever seen on coins and metals came from the old world ! Makes our US coins look rather boring sometimes  

I’ll admit some of modern stuff coming out of the mint looks cool ...After awhile we do get bored looking at classic coins they all look same looooong series just different mint Mark or year date , the last modern coins I bought from mint was Gold 2016-W mercury dime, standing Liberty quarter , and walking liberty half... I ordered few modern coins from Perth mint , lately I been buying few Graded world coins from Europe old old stuff from 1600-1800  something different to keep me interested 

6 hours ago, JKK said:

These days, it's not that the young people aren't interested; it's the lack of disposable income. Their cost of living relative to what they earn has many of them struggling, and it doesn't allow for much spending on stuff like collecting.

There is however a problem with attracting YNs to the hobby. I think many coin clubs and shows could do a better job of it.

I’ve seen younger guys selling a lot modern bullion like painted Spider-Man coins and stuff like that ... I’ve noticed a lot younger dealers flooding market when silver and gold went up a while back “buying silver and gold, top prices paid” then when they are going out of business “buy gold now !” Yeah I’m not that dumb to buy gold when price is sky high that’s the wrong time to buy gold we buy gold when price settles back down ... even on TV I was sick seeing the ADs buy gold now! When price of gold was $1,300-$1,400 an ounce ... 

trapshooter , do you shoot trap for enjoyment , years ago when I was younger in my 20’s I used to shoot registered targets with ATA used to travel all around shooting competitively (I was okay at it , I was a 26 yard handicap shooter) been longtime since I shot trap , I’m probably rusty as heck if I ever do return . However I still hunt rabbits with beagles I can still hit rabbits on ground buy a flying clay target another story  

Even gunshows are starting to see newer generation isn’t interested in collecting older antique guns , they rather have the newer guns and stuff, we could probably say that for collecting for just about everything baseball cards , antique cars and so on ... are we really the last of our kind and generation that is serious about our hobby or keeping it alive ?  Yeah I could see “cost of living” keeping younger folks out of hobby simply because money is better used for living expense 

I think you said better than I could , there not enough fingers on my hands to say how many times my kids called me up “dad I need borrow money to make my car payment , or Dad I need money to pay a bill” yeah Dad has a little extra money on side to spare ... youngsters just don’t understand what it like to do without things we need the most , and frankly, I worry about my collection these days I spend on quality rather than quantity my collection got a lot smaller these days finding a buyer is getting harder and harder Sure we all would love to own a $10,000 single coin if we could , finding another buyer to sell that coin to ? That’s even harder in that price range not everyone in hobby is walking around with pockets that deep , I try to keep my cost at the most under $400 per coin my collection is down to 45 coins these days 

It been awhile since I been on here I used come on here all time , lately family , work , surgery kept me away from my hobby of coin collecting . I Recently started collecting world coins I’m taking a break from my US coin collecting . About few months ago I had my daughter at local small coin show with me she 18 now , I also have 2 older sons as well I used take them to coin shows few times when they were little ... Anyways we were looking at Morgan dollars one of most common coins we see just about every dealers table ... I was showing my daughter “wow look at this Morgan 1882-S MS66 $200” it was nice coin , she said to me what difference ? Coin next to it looks the same just about every dealer table has Morgan dollars until your eyes bleed ! You can’t miss it , she some what right also prices throw her off there tons of MS66 Morgan dollars out there why prices so high ? Not everyone buying them ... I explained to her that’s the way market is ... the Market is sky high on prices these days it amazes me people even have the money to spend on coins of higher quality 

I’m fortunate to grow with grandfather who showed me passion of collecting , seems like 60’s, 70’s, 80’s even 90’s we were exposed to this hobby not greedy about prices and money .... today I see a lot lesser kids or younger folks at coin shows , I’m beginning to wonder if future of coin collecting and market will be strong as it is today ? We all are growing older , we will need pass our collection off or sell it . How can we sell our Collections if no younger people aren’t interested in spending thousands and thousands of dollars for a collection ? How will dealers make a decent pay on coins or stay in business if not enough younger people aren’t interested in the hobby ? I see more and more younger people are interested in technology and electronics... it makes me wonder 

6 minutes ago, Travis Hale said:

Thought you’d like these...

Now that’s really cool ! 😎

I bought this coin for fun wasn’t that much money but I couldn’t resist the cool artfulness design on this coin. It’s really a commemorative type of coin to celebrate Queen Elizabeth Silver jubilee 

Nice 1945 restrike gold Mexican 2 pesos, I think it been undergraded again I won’t send it back in for regrading ...  

2018 Tuvalu good luck rotating charm coin , low mintage of 3,000 again a cool coin from Penrith mint . 

2016 Tuvalu yin yang rotating charm from Penrith mint only 3,000 were made I bought it cause I like rotating ball in middle of coin which is pretty cool 😎 

17 hours ago, CrazyBirdMan said:

Do you really think it could be a 69? If so I might do it anyway my grandfather have it to me when I was young. I would love to conserve and slab it for my personal collection. 

69 to 70 grade isn’t much of a difference at all when grading ,if it has a Milk spot it will definitely get a 68 or 69 ... in fact I never send in bullion coins for grading such a waste of time they always come back a 69 ... I don’t even think graders even looked at the coins , just look at submissions forms say “yep, this guy a regular collector with a small account with us , and he sent a bunch silver eagles we will 69 them all with our eyes closed !” 🤣 

I looked at several 69s and 70s I could not tell difference but the 70s I did see behind them stood a happy dealer with high price tag motivated to sell,  they send in Bulk loads of coins lucky 4-5 come back a 70s

one guy I work with sent in a bunch of silver eagles to PCGS he just started collecting wish he would of told me instead of wasting his hard earned money on grading/slabbing fees 4 came back MS68 the rest were MS69s he was very disappointed 😔 to me 69 and 70 is nothing but a bunch of modern market hype Baloney! 

10 minutes ago, Collector3745 said:

Ok thanks. Ngc has it and attributions have Been listed genuine!

Did they give it a special code for variety or double die like FS-001 or something ... 

I’m no expert , I once found two 1969-S double dies (well I assumed they were) turned out it mechanical doubling worth nothing ... later I went to coin show a dealer had a true strong 1969-S double die , you could easily see it was doubled all over the coin not just the date in god we trust , liberty , date as well you didn’t even need loupe to see it , easily seen with a naked eye