Alex in PA.

Roger & Goldfinger:  In all my years, off and on, on this forum this Post ranks in the top five for being historical and interesting.  You have done well guys and you both deserve an 'Attaboy'.

Now, if there may be 640 bags of gold coins, era unknown, then Mister Bayerle will make out good.  At today's prices for gold, and possibly some silver, 10,000 pounds is a good find; yes?

On 5/25/2022 at 9:27 PM, GoldFinger1969 said:

I don't know how salvage costs have gone up/down since 1990 or so

That may be it.  A fellow would have the duty of proving to the 'Backers' that there was treasure and it's worth the cost of recovery.  You make some very interesting points.

@Hoghead515 I'm sure it will be a great looking set when you finish.  I can't wait to see your end result.  

On 5/25/2022 at 7:11 PM, GoldFinger1969 said:

Believe it or not, they can't find a schematic/layout of the ship.

I read that but......that can't be all that's holding up the show.  

On 5/25/2022 at 5:01 PM, Cat Bath said:

$3,000,000 would be 150,000 of them

Yes!  However, no one seems in a hurry to get rich.  

On 5/25/2022 at 4:04 PM, GoldFinger1969 said:

and get used to the NGC holders.

As I said I like NGC.  They did a whopping good job on my Carson City gold coins with Conservation and regrade.  I sent in 3 $20.00 CC DEs three years ago and two went up 1 grade.  What I guess I like most about NGC is their specialty labels.  

That is scary.  I just recently sent my Carson City collection to PCGS and had them all looked over for authenticity and the reholdered in the Gold Shield NFC anti-counterfeiting holders.   But this makes me nervous about future buying.  

On 5/25/2022 at 3:20 PM, FlyingAl said:

It was a die transfer counterfeit

I had to do some research but you are right.  Samples of those really shocked me.  Here's one.........

Added to say:  The person who bought that 5 figure coin must have been heart broken.

Let me muddy the waters if I may.  I do not think PCGS or NGC has much of a 'premium' on them if the slab does not have a Green or Gold CAC bean on it.  Just my opinion; that's all.

On 5/25/2022 at 1:47 PM, FlyingAl said:

I believe that they recently sold a counterfeit for 5 figures.

That must have been one good counterfeit or one dumb buyer.

On 5/25/2022 at 1:37 PM, GoldFinger1969 said:

I think that was true at one time, but I think the gap has closed. 

Yes and I think some people who are members of both TPGs believe that.  I use PCGS for all my Carson City Coins 'except' my Carson City gold.  I have a long time personal rule:  Silver to PCGS and Gold to NGC.  Don't ask me why; I just seem to like they way they do it.  Now I do have a small Buffalo Nickel collection in NGC Holders and NGC Buffalo Labels.  I like that.

PS:  Great comment of yours.    

In searching the Web I cannot find if any of the loot was yet recovered.

On 5/25/2022 at 9:36 AM, DWLange said:

QA was suspended or banned from these boards.

My regrets that NGC doesn't give Life Sentences.   

Interesting.  

On 5/24/2022 at 7:14 PM, VKurtB said:

where you can sit and rap with the guys. Interactively, not watching a video

Never happen!  'SickCoins' is predominantly a You Tube numismatician.   

Oh lookie; I made a new word!   

On 5/24/2022 at 1:08 PM, VKurtB said:

Getting “branded”, as you call it, is a completely 100% self-inflicted wound.

You'll never convince this one of that.   It must be one of us that's the problem.

On 5/24/2022 at 11:19 AM, VKurtB said:

just the indisputably fake early cent. 

That's part of my reasoning.  When one of these so called 'Newbies' goes on Etsy or Alibaba and buys one of those 18th Century 'gold' (LOL) coins then comes here making the statements about their 'wonderful' find.  Then, when a few of us describe it as fake the argument of how unlearned we are begins.  And it will never end.  How many posts by knowledgeable people, or people who truly come to learn, get over ridden when the troll keeps his post going.  

On 5/24/2022 at 10:41 AM, SlickCoins said:

How does one con by just giving opinions?

YOU did NOT give us YOUR opinions.  YOU told us that very famous and well known people in the field of Numismatics were communicating to YOU that you had these fantastic errors.  Go back and reread YOUR comments.

On 5/24/2022 at 9:55 AM, SlickCoins said:

let's take my story for example.

Oh, we have.  These good people on this forum, who have decades of knowledge in coin collecting, have been patient with your one after another Walmart parking lot finds.  Only a troll keeps posting junk coin pictures by the dozen, and then attempts to con people and continually argue with people into believing well known experts validate his pathetic creations.  I do not know if you are just a lonely person needing attention or a fool trying to disrupt this forum.  Yes, we have seen your 'story'.  

I sure like them