Alex in PA.

I am probably wrong but at one time, if you cracked an NGC holder didn't the label of something change color.  

On 5/16/2022 at 6:59 PM, GoldFinger1969 said:

note that the CAC designation seems to drive the price differential

Here's where I agree with you but..........  It is not the ordinary, run of the mill collector that is causing this premium but the coin dealers and CAC itself.  However, CAC has been going for 12 (?) years now and doesn't look like it's going anywhere soon.  Whether you like CAC or not, if you are a coin collector, you will have to learn to live with it.

What @Cat Bath said makes a lot of sense.

On 5/27/2022 at 5:23 PM, gmarguli said:

As for the "coins", I think it is the same coin with just different lighting. 

Agreed.  Sorry about the slabs - memory ain't what it used to be.  

On 5/28/2022 at 11:01 AM, Oldhoopster said:

  @Insider is active on some of the forums.

@Insider is constantly active on Coin Talk.  And his posts are very numismatic educational and have helped a lot of YNs.

On 5/28/2022 at 2:40 PM, Fiero67 said:

Then what would you suggest I do with it..

Throw it in the wishing well.

That's certain more than just true.  Seems there is no end to what they thrown money at.

On 5/28/2022 at 1:03 PM, VKurtB said:

these dumb 💩 brothers got so rich.

I am, at a loss for words.  I wonder how much those two made off that show and it just kept on going and going.

On 5/28/2022 at 12:50 PM, VKurtB said:

Like on Oak Island?

In the past year, at least, there have been some of these so called 'newbies' who make Oak Island look like a rerun of Macbeth.   

On 5/28/2022 at 9:20 AM, J P Mashoke said:

I am sure more than one person looks at a coin

There have been come comments, by reputable people here and ATS, that sometimes up to four people look at your coin.  

On 5/27/2022 at 3:22 PM, J P Mashoke said:

I am still on the fence about the whole MS + and - thing . Coin grading is tough enough without adding a variation to it.

You are not alone.  Maybe I am old and old fashioned but for years I've been peeved at how the grading system has evolved.  Take for example the terms 'Proof Like', 'Deep Proof Like' and then 'Deep Mirror Proof Like'.  I feel if it isn't a Proof it isn't.  I believe that such terms are nothing more than 'Gradeflation' designed by dealers to line the pockets of dealers.  Just because the first few coins on a new run are pretty lets call them 'Proof Like' and get more money for them. The common collector won't know the difference.   It's a Mint State coin that looks good, has a certain eye appeal, that's all.  Sorry for the rant.

There are plenty of excellent coin forums on the Web.  A forum is only what you make of it.  

On 5/28/2022 at 6:53 AM, nickhardinn said:

Unfortunately, the link does not work

That's strange.  It worked fine for me.

Also, you get a better response posting this in the Newbie Questions forum.  This is for buying and selling.

There's quite a few Redfield Hoard coins for sale on eBay.  What the OP has is a non-Redfield.  

This one has more names than the entire New York Yankees.  MF told you folks:'Being played".

A rare find.  Send it to NGC for authentication and encapsulation.

Very nice.  

I was just looking over some Jeffersons and tthe proofs were high priced.  The very nice ones.

On 11/12/2020 at 10:46 AM, GoldFinger1969 said:

I've rarely seen it said that CAC stickers didn't belong,

I've read a 'few' comments from ATS where some challenged the awarding of the CAC sticker to coins that appeared not to warrant it.

On 11/12/2020 at 10:46 AM, GoldFinger1969 said:

more so that a coin deserved one and didn't get it.

There's some folks ATS that really get hyped up when they don't get the coveted 'bean'.  CAC has been here since 2007 and, whether I like it or not, doesn't seem to be going anywhere.

On 5/26/2022 at 7:18 PM, VKurtB said:

Ahem! No, “everybody” does not love gold. 

Oops!  My bad.

On 5/26/2022 at 6:44 PM, GBrad said:

(if found to be fraudulent) not only hurts numismatics and collectors,

Absolutely and I recollect the folks ATS have had several counterfeit holders with real (but not the original) coins in them.  The people who do this counterfeit ae getting better by the day.  I remember when it was only coins and now it's the holders too.  I believe, but I'm not sure, one of those PCGS counterfeits was the holder, label, substitute coin, CAC sticker.  

On 5/26/2022 at 6:44 PM, GBrad said:

Maybe we are looking at a result of lighting and photography issues

I may be wrongs, my memory is not what it used to be but I 'think' even a decade ago if you cracked an NGC holder something turned a different color.  Maybe someone from NGC could tell me whether I'm wrong about that.

On 5/26/2022 at 7:02 PM, GoldFinger1969 said:

Give an assist to CatBath who first posted about this. 

I forgot; it wasn't intentional.  I've just got caught up in this excitement.  I do think reading about sunken treasure or buried treasure always exciting.  

On 5/26/2022 at 7:02 PM, GoldFinger1969 said:

Maybe Elon Musk can get the gold. 

Hey, doesn't he have plenty of money?    But everybody loves gold.  There's just something about it.

@Lem EBeautiful nickles. 

I think JustBob and Coinbuf are correct.  I call to mid the difference you see when you compare Trueview with a eBay or seller's picture.  It's almost like looking at two different coins in the same holder.  Is that an NGC Edge View Holder?

On 5/26/2022 at 6:02 PM, RWB said:

"Unfortunately, the salvors had broken up the ship very badly and we were all disappointed in the structural integrity of the ship."

I take it this means other salvage outfits besides Mister Bayerle were after the wreck?