Cat Bath

Other than my "cold dead 20 box", everything else is expendable. It's sometimes a nice way to prune a collection.

Elite set made public. https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/gold/20-gold-major-sets/st-gaudens-20-gold-major-varieties-1933-patterns-1907/alltimeset/295475

Saving for a 29 is about a lost cause. It goes up faster than I can do it. A MS64 was 45K in 2020 and now it's 85K. Maybe it's time to start chasing chickens again.

I admit to checking your set before bidding on a top-pop, just to make sure you already have one. So far as Saints go, the price basically went up 1/2 grade on the "jump coins". Essentially, if you could afford a "poverty set" (07-28 minus the 21) at a set average of MS65, it's now a MS64.5 for the same price. The good news is that undegrading happens and with a lot of work you can assemble a MS65 looking set for MS64 money. (with great effort) If I had it to do over, I couldn't come close to my current set average, but I could get very close with the quality of the actual coins. (I'd go for 65 commons & 64 for everything else) I'd say as few as a dozen new set collectors with money could really screw things up.

Saints & Roosters My lifetime effort fits neatly in 2 boxes with space left over.

I'm only averaging about 1/year so I guess I really suck at collecting them. So far as "sleepy hollow" -vs ATS...I'm much happier here. About all they talk about is plastic & stickers. Drives me absolutely nuts.

I've noticed from the registry that there are very few upgrades amongst those of us who have been at it awhile. Gold looks like it's tanking and severely bagged-out common saints are still selling at over 2K. I think most of us are just shaking our heads. Time to head over to the dark side and see what chaos, if any, is going on over there.

I wonder what he'll call his 4th TPG after he has another hissy fit and leaves CAC?

Is she talking about the Duckor?. I think I have seen the others. So far as the 21 goes. I like the Baker & the Hesselgesser more even though they are graded lower. I still like the one below because I think spots are cool I'd grade it a 66

My guess is a "rare/expensive" saint gets graded about once every 50 years. 50 years from now the "market" won't even care who JA was. I think I'm ahead of the market now in that I believe there will be a return to more technical grading for saints. About half the saints I've seen with beans are just really-really bad. No other way of putting it. It's almost like he's flipping them....Heads up, CAC....Tails up, no-CAC

Check out Elite's proof set of saints. (New owner of the Koessl set) https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/gold/20-gold-major-sets/st-gaudens-20-gold-basic-set-proof-1908-1915/101 Also check out the consecutive cert. numbers (XXXXX908-XXXXX915) The 1913 has a different number

I guess the reasoning ATS is that because there were so many made & they were passed out, that they are proofs And that is another mystery. Probably because it went dark for so long that they didn't know if it was collectable anymore Either way, the registry needs a bit of a rethink now that we have someone making a serious run at a complete set. My thoughts are that a complete set should include the 8 proofs (1908-1915) plus the collectable patterns as well as major varieties etc. BTW...If the UHR is a proof then why is it not listed as necessary in the collection of proofs (9 would then be necessary)

That's why I don't get the registry ATS The UHR is not listed as a pattern. https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/20-gold-major-sets/20-gold-major-sets/st-gaudens-20-gold-major-varieties-1933-patterns-1907/composition/360

Quoting myself We all know what the J1776 is and I suspect the J1779 is the "checker" (double thick eagle) WTH are the 1778 PR & 1778a? And why would they list a coin in the registry that is uncollectable (J1779)