Alex in PA.

That is a very nice 50 C piece.  Just the right amount for a coin that old.

On 6/4/2022 at 11:41 AM, World Colonial said:

increasing barbarism I see in modern society.

You are so right.  I haven't much faith left that our Specie will last much longer.

On 6/3/2022 at 6:31 PM, Fenntucky Mike said:

Probably too late for that place, everyone scattered to the wind long ago. Although I have noticed a little more participation over there in recent weeks it's typically short lived. 

Kind of what happened here after the War of the Words.  The main. NGCCoin.com site has all the NGC owned links at the bottom of the log in page.

BTW:  Our old friend SlickCoins posted his 1793 counterfeit ATS.  His post drew 90 comments!  I do believe a star is born.

On 6/3/2022 at 6:25 PM, RWB said:

It quickly becomes "just junk."

No, they turn it into $20.00 Saints.    

I know it may seem biased but..........The PMG site is really good.  All my currency is graded by PMG.  PMG of years ago too.

Okay Mike.  BTW:  I collect paper currency; mainly Silver Certificates:  $1, $2, $5 1886 to 1957. + Confederate, Texas.  

After seeing those pictures one has to wonder what type of person it takes to work around all that gold, especially the bars, and still be honest?

I don't collect World but here's a good luck to you.  Hope they bid high.

Yo!     Send some my way.  They're purty.

Why wouldn't you post this on the PMG Forum for paper currency?    Paper Money Grading - Paper Money Guaranty | PMG (pmgnotes.com)

On 6/3/2022 at 9:18 AM, BearlyHereBear said:

It's their government that gives me the willies

Totally agree with you on that.  I won't do a rant about "Pretty Boy' (JT) but the Canadians sure blew it there.

You're the man JP.   

That lady sure was a looker.  96 now and still Queen.  Long live the queen.

Addendum to my former post.  If anyone feels we are 'turning' someone into a troll why not just direct them to the Ignore feature of this website?  It's working very well for me.

https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1076355/of-late-several-newbies-demonstrate-a-stubborn-streak#latest

On 6/2/2022 at 5:56 PM, The Neophyte Numismatist said:

It's sad to think that we are turning those that legitimately like coins into trolls,

I must disagree with you.  Many of these so called 'Newbies' are actually You Tube creations and some are here to deliberately disrupt this forum and others.  You will find them on CT and ATS.  At present 'SickCoins' is ATS with new found varieties and errors that no one over there has heard of.  Mainly it is folks who are craving the attention they are given and the power that comes from getting people upset.  M.F. said it best:  "You're being played.

"Freedom" is just another word for nothing left to lose.  If you have ever been stuck on the AlCan in January you'd be wailing your heads off at how good the Canadians are.

Yes.  When the Canadians entered into their age of enlightenment.

Mithrae Invicto - To Him unconquered

@RWB  But, but one of the stories says they found skeletons so the story must be true, eh?  And some dead mules (maybe dead deer mistaken after a few glasses of Busthead?).

Oh don't leave yet.  There is the Grand Finale:

Take note of this:  The army got the Pinkerton Detective Agency involved and a group of men were sent into the mountains to search for clues about the missing treasure, but failed to discover the treasure. They did discover a couple of dead mules that had an army brand on them. A couple years later some skeletons, believed to be some of the murdered soldiers, were discovered near Dents Run.

 According to word of mouth, the army never closed the case and still sends people from time to time into the wilderness of Elk and Cameron Counties to search for the lost treasure. According to most versions, two and a half bars of gold were recovered in 1865.

The simple story I had heard as a child has changed over the years. The young officer in charge has become Lieutenant Castleton. The guide is now referred to as Conners. The second in charge of the party has been given the name Sergeant O’Rourke. Even the treasure itself has grown in each retelling as the twenty-six gold bars has increased to the size of fifty-two in each telling.

Now I just spent a couple hours researching the archives of the Clinton (Lock Haven, PA  1863-1923) *  And can find NOTHING to support any of this.  During the period of publishing it had various names.  The Clinton , Lock Haven Express.  Tomorrow I will contact Ross Library, keeper of our records, and will let all know the results.  Adieu.

Now the tale continues in a very close scenario.  Well, what happened to that lone survivor, the guide, and what was his story?  What meaning has Lock Haven have to the writer?

Some time later he wandered into Lock Haven weak from the time he spent wandering about the mountains. While being cared for he told the story about being a guide for a secret mission he had guided through the mountains.

The guide claimed that after leaving St. Marys the wagons made it through the mountains and were traveling near present-day Hicks Run when they decided to bury the gold and flee the region. After burying the gold, they started for civilization and only the guide managed to make it out alive. He wandered into Lock Haven where he was cared for by residents. In his delirious state, he told of the buried treasure.

A search party left Lock Haven to search for the murdered men and the lost gold, but failed to discover any signs of the massacre. Meanwhile the army began to question the guide whose story changed in each telling. First the group had been ambushed. Later the men turned on each other as each wanted the gold they were carrying. Then he conveniently lost his memory. He was taken by the army out west were they could watch him, but he claimed he had no memory of the event, except when he was drunk and then he claimed he knew where the gold had been buried.

On 5/30/2022 at 5:07 PM, RWB said:

Yet the liars and corrupt are the jerks spreading this nonsense, or who are unable to separate reality from their own sad dementia.

Umm some Roger but not all.  I heard this when I was a kid and, it sounded exciting then and I don't believe any of the olders believed it either.  You see, the are several versions of this tale.  I like this one best:

The year was 1863 and General Lee was leading the Confederate Army up the Shenandoah Valley and into Pennsylvania. In early June of that year, two freight wagons – each being pulled by four mules – and a group of mounted cavalrymen made their way northward into the wilds of Central Pennsylvania. Supposedly the party was to take twenty-six gold bars northward from Wheeling to Driftwood and then raft the gold down river to Harrisburg, followed by overland to Washington, D.C. to avoid the Confederate army. The group was led by a young lieutenant who was sick at the time.

At some point along the journey, they hired a civilian guide who led the group up the Clarion River to Ridgeway and then across the mountains to St. Marys. By the time the party arrived in St. Marys the young lieutenant was running a fever and was delirious. At some point he blurted out to his men that the wagons held a fortune in gold in a false bottom. They were carrying twenty-six bars of gold.

With the truth exposed, there was a fear among the men that locals would try to steal the gold, so they set out eastward and were never heard from again.

Except for the civilian guide.

Note to the story:  1.  When in 1863?  2.  Wells Fargo calimed no wagons ship what much by rail.  3.  Conestoga wagons carrying, each carrying approx 12,000 pounds, not in Winter of Spring.  4.  from late in 1861 when the US Government had started to print up a first batch of treasury notes for payment to contractors, as specie in the form of US coins, especially gold, was already being pulled out of circulation. The article recommended to soldiers that they should now accept, even prefer these new notes to specie coin, because they were convenient to carry and especially easy to return by mail to their homes.    By early 1862 state chartered banks had ceased all specie payments

I don't know why this keeps getting knocked off.

On 5/30/2022 at 11:55 AM, VKurtB said:

“We Embarrass Ourselves #1”

Totally agree.  But they have these 'sponsors' who just keep throwing money at them.