Oldhoopster

I occasionally visit suppliers for work.  One is a 5 HR drive and one is 6.5 hrs.  I don't live near a major airport, so with the connections it's just a little longer to drive.  With all the delays and cancellations, I rent a car and drive to these locations.  I would rather control my trip than be stuck drinking expensive airport beer watching my flights getting one delay after another

On 4/4/2022 at 5:25 PM, DWLange said:

That particular alteration seems to have occupied the idle moments of many a young man at a time when large cents still circulated. I've seen several examples, and all were of the Braided Hair type.

When I was putting together a circulated set of Canadian Large cents, it wasn't uncommon to see a decent coin ruined like this.  Most seemed to be on the Victorian coins and were crudely done ( no pun intended)

On 4/4/2022 at 7:54 PM, tj96 said:

I was just going to mention that.

 

Is this your discovery?  I'm not a big fan of class IX doubling, but I do think its cool to have a discovery piece slabbed.  As other have said, I don't think it's worth it to send in anything else

On 4/4/2022 at 3:56 PM, VKurtB said:

I will NEVER claim to be an expert about gold coins in any way other than their sketchy legal history. I find grading them to be exceptionally difficult when compared with silver and base metals. Some (guess who) deny it but gold coins are just waaaaay more liberally graded. The softness of the metal (yes, it IS softer, sorry, it just is) leads graders to grade the stuff much more liberally. Who else says so? Brian Silliman. Literally. With English language words. I see so little gold because I actively AVOID it, that when I try to grade the stuff, I’m almost always too low. 

@VKurtB

I did a little research a few years ago using some of the metallurgy sites and and reference books I borrowed from a colleague.  Believe it or not, the hardness values of 90% gold is close to 90% silver.  That really surprised me. There are other materials properties such as ductility that play a roll as well but I didn't dig that far.  So it appears that adding just 10% of Cu and other stuff has a major affect on hardness.

I can't recall finding any hardness data on the 75Cu25Ni Alloy for nickels or clad

However, .999+ bullion, is definitely softer.

Sorry, but I don't have the references.  Just have to rely on my memory

Are you a yinzer from western PA?

BTW:  I put together some Canadian sets about 20-30 years ago.  Fun sets to collect, especially the nickels since they fit into your topical collection. 

I know you're on the other sites and probably saw the member who has a lot of beaver related items from the Pacific Northwest

It's not a brothel token. Just a coin that someone decided to damage.  Collect long enough and you'll come across US and Canadian large cents type of engraving.

A coin like this is considered to be damaged and the vulgar engraving reduces any collector value significantly.  In addition, it has environmental damage from being buried.  It's an interesting metal detecting find, but any collector interest is significantly reduced.  Sorry

On 4/2/2022 at 6:03 PM, tj96 said:

I always thought the same thing, including cents!

Can change fall out of pants pockets and get caught between the inner and outer dryer drums?   I think many of these damaged type coins are just called "dryer coins" because an exact explanation is impossible. 

@tj96

Read the error-ref explanation including the link they provide.  That will provide a lot of good info explaining dryer coins. 

Its a dryer coin.  Caught between the inner and outer drums of a dryer (usually commercial).  PMD

More info here

Www.error-ref.com/dryer-coins/

The tolerance range is +/- 0.13 GRAMS, not percent.  The people telling you it's a percentage are wrong

On 4/1/2022 at 7:04 PM, tj96 said:

So I'm wondering if the Denver mint produced any foreign coin back in 2007? 

No

Happy April Fools Day

It seems like it could be a missing clad layer based on the weight and some areas of striking weakness, but I would expect more weakness.  I can't tell from the edge pics if there are 2 layers (missing clad) or 3 (normal).  I'm leaning towards missing clad layer, but cannot say for certain

It's a Provincial Conder token named after James Conder, the person who first catalogued them.  The D&H is the reference number from the book by Dalton and Hamer.

As @VKurtBsaid, opening a second account on CT is an automatic ban.  That was the reason you were bounced.

Agree with @Coinbuf.  Notice on the error-ref pics how the letters on the rim match the letters on the coin.  Yours shows letters from some other location. That can't happen for this type of error unless you saw other features that would indicate the coin rotated, such as double striking on the opposite side.  Yours doesn't show that.

You have a vise job PMD

https://www.error-ref.com/rim-restricted-second-strikes/

On 3/29/2022 at 8:54 AM, investinrehabs said:

How nice to wake up and have my dreams of being a millionaire crushed! LOL. I appreciate the responses and all of you taking time out to let me know. One last question. Why would anyone bother to nickel a plate a cent??

Scott

Electroplating was done as an experiment in many HS chemistry classes.  Nothing better than a hands on experiment that demonstrates an important concept.  Plus the student gets to take their experiment home

Could also be a set up piece or QC check for a small plating operation.  We'll never know for certain, but you can be certain that it didn't occur at the mint.

If interested, Dealers will pay $1.00 - $1.50 per roll (2-3 cents each) for circulated wheat cents. 

If you like the signatures, go ahead and collect them.  If you want to buy them because you think they'll be more valuable with the signatures, I think you have some good feedback here.  Maybe a small premium if you can find the right buyer, maybe bigger if you get lucky, but probably the same value as a standard slab to most collectors and dealers

On 3/23/2022 at 10:34 PM, zadok said:

....would be interesting from a curiosity point, possibly usable data for various research or historical articles or projects, not sure just how much it would contribute to the collecting aspect of coins...nor how much of a demand for such data would materialize, prob the biggest question would be who would pay for the added expense, certainly not the average collector....decent endeavor for some doctorial candidate if could convince a tpg to co-sponsor....as for adding to the hobby minimal interest....

If you're into the hobby for collecting/investing then I agree, but if your interesting is the history behind the coins, how/why they were made, how they moved through commerce, and how contemporary people used them for daily transactions, then research like this is fantastic.

The cost and access to samples could be a formidable barrier, however.  But it can't hurt to hope.  There are some studies tracing ancient coins to mine sources that I found very interesting (I don't have the sources handy.  Sorry)