NGC Journals

MODERN PROOF? THEY'RE ALL THE SAME.

As the umpire said, "some are balls and some are strikes, but thet're nothin' till I call them." Why send them in for grading if they are all the same? Right. That?s what NGC and PCGS said. The reason dealers send modern proofs to be graded by the thousands is because NGC and PCGS will grade only a small percent 70. These are the ones that sell for big money. Are these 70?s nicer than the common 69?s? Of course not. If NGC and PCGS gave an honest grade the vast majority would be 70. Bu

Gregory Taylor

Gregory Taylor

Day is Done.....Gone the Sun....Three More Morgans bite the dust

They didn't have a chance. I could feel it the moment I laid eyes on these beauties at the local..... coin shop. One at a time he removed them from the box...the first was bright, filling the shop with dancing circular spot of sunlight as I turned the 1881cc Morgan over in my hand, wow! what a gem I though. Then he said look at this...and handed me the 1904 S Silver Dollar...but for the ever so slight toning, it looked like it had just arrived from the mint. I mean it look beautiful!!! Richard

RE: Day is Done

Umm.... That is way I only buy slabed coins. Some dealers would have told you that the coin was not clean when you bought it, so you must have done it. So, you are lucky that Rich is an honest dealer, and is going to give you your money back.

regandon-migration

regandon-migration

question about cleaning

i have a few coins that look ms60 + but they have some darkness to them. i know if it were clean it would show some very nice luster and hair and such...but im not going to atemp to clean my self without knowing how to"properly" clean coins. is there a way to clean right? or do i spend the (?) money to get them cleaned by ngc b4 grading? any feedback would be appreciated:)

ant11

ant11

a morgan i hpoe isnt cleaned

found this morgan on ebay. it was 16m till end and was at 16$ i bid 20 and got it.it is very brilliant and has very good markings. but as more and more morgans hit the bone yard i am worried. so i thaught i would put the scan up for all to judge for themselves. what do you folks think did i get a good deal or is it 1 for the bone yard? 1889 p mor

ant11

ant11

just a lil funny...

just a lil funny bullion posting for a lil laugh. a 1 oz bullion i found last weak at the local pawn and had to have it!!! other side says"international trade unit" with eagle and flags on either side. i found this funny funny bull

ant11

ant11

69's or 70's..hmmm

many things to consider..1990's gold eagle just sold for $36,000+!! I believe the time to invest in some 70's is too late.The past few years have seen hundreds of perfect 70's in population reports for every denomination..with many still uncertified I'm sure.The prices are relatively low for most though but with high pops probably won't see a great jump for a while.The 69's may increase at a higher ratio for these coins.Many coins of the 1990's have pops less than 50 as perfect 70's and still

jackson64

jackson64

PF/MS moderns what to buy

My oh my what to buy! I think many of the modern coins seen today could be quite valuable in the future. I especially like Susan B's, Sacs Pennies, franklins and kennedy's along with MS Gold bullion eagles. Many of these coins in MS65+ in the raw can be bought for near face value through various sources. My Key picks are 1980-1981(P/D/S) + 1999 Susan B in MS state Sacagawea 2000-present (P/D)in MS All years of franklin halves MS63+ Ikes especially 1971-73 in MS63+ Kennedy's up till 1

dumbear33

dumbear33

PF68...PF69....PF70

After all we are talking about Moderns here My three cents worth (inflation don't u know) As a collector of Moderns coins..Sac's...SBA's....IKE's...and Memorial Cents, I do try to get the highest avalable grade...especially now when they're still cheap...If you project these coins out 50 to a hundred years..(when they will start to become hard to find?) will we still view that poor little pf68 as a throwaway or will some of the new collectors to our hobby be more that happy to get that coin a

silver dollar

silver dollar

1st Submissions received

What a surprise I recently recieved my first submissions back from NGC and was pleasantly surprised. I sent in a variety of different dates and Mint and Proof coins just to see how the grading process worked. Well what a surprise I had when I opened the boxes and found that NCG had graded one of my MS coins a MS70. I am really excited about this and I am currently working on sending in my next batch of coins for grading. This has been a great experience for me and will keep me collecting f

Tim Murdy

Tim Murdy

Ahhh Man!!!! I gotta respond

and hope I dont offend somebody. For a second, I thought I was in a time warp and had been sent back to tradingslabs.com. What is the purpose of this sight?? To share stories of coin collecting, insights, experiences, wishes, dreams of adding coins to our dream collections, history, ect. A journal does not have to be matter-of-fact data that will bore the "heck" (for you ron) outta the reader, rather it should be fun, fascinating and stimulate our passion for the coin and hobby. I have

I gotta respond tooo

I assume that your post was aimed at me mike... and I gotta tell you ..the post was aimed at two posts that were here ealier, and have since been pulled by the watcher gods...they were both out and out advertisements for a sale, and I personally agree with you that this site is for our dreams, hopes, wishes, "oh I got that coin finally and the rest of what you said....and as far as trading slabs (.com)...I'm a member and want to thanks to Ron, such a site was long overdue dean shelton

silver dollar

silver dollar

re:Poor Customer Service @ NGC

28 calendar days or business days? 12-day turnaround (Modern/Early Bird) is in business days, not calendar days. Also 'Modern' is running a few days behind. Modern is currently at 19 days (about a month) and Early Bird is at 23 days. You can always check on NGC's webpage. If you need the coin by Father's Day, best bet would be to send it Express (48 hrs, though at $50/coin I wouldn't do it very often)... As for selling a PF-68, it's possible but I do agree with you...

Allan C Ong

Allan C Ong

Isn't it funny...???

That a coin graded by NGC as Proof 68 is considered too lowly to sell. I just find it amazing that in todays world of slabbed coins that a modern coin that grades as MS/PF68 would be considered an inferior grade and thus not worth trying to sell on the open market. Even checking Numismedia Values, most of the modern coins in MS/PF69 are at very low prices. It is only when the modern coin achieves the ultimate grade of MS/PF70 that the coins value increases, and then exponentially and there ar

ICG grading seminars ?????

did anyone see the article in N News ICG is now holding grading seminars at major shows for the general public.....with their graders on site to explain the perceived differences in the higher grades. Now as much as I hate to say it, it would seem that Jim Taylor is getting a jump up on the rest of the competition....something to watch real close huh? dean silver dollar coins

silver dollar

silver dollar

Is NGC the right firm for me?

The Conundrum: My eyes tells me that I prefer the way NGC grades coins yet my eyes (and wallet) also see that PCGS graded coins sell at far greater premiums. What's a collector who's interested in long term appreciation value to do? We've all noticed that PCGS graded coins usually sell for a premium over similarly graded NGC coins. I, like you, have seen the myriad of explanations as to why this situation exists. In the end however all the reasons and explanations make little difference when i

RE: Is NGC the right firm for me

PCGS VS. NGC I like how NGC grades coins but they have always told us to look at the coin and not the holder. When you see so many modern coins graded MS69 and MS70 who really gives if it is a 69 or 70. It seems strange to me that someone would pay over $30,000.00 for a 1993 $50.00 Gold Eagle when you have so many in MS69. NGC grades on the standards set forth by the A.N.A. and that is good enough for me. PCGS is way out in left field on thier own and they make up thier own rules of the game.

Mirrored Morgan

Mirrored Morgan

re: ngc the right firm

i to have noticed the value diff in the grading.... i my self am going to do a lil investment research. im going to send 10 of my 20 1981 p sba dollars to ngc and 10 to pcgs. this way when i sell them i will have all required notes on what the diff is in sales.being that i sell lots on ebay i do daily research trying to find what compitition is selling for and what it is they r selling. i like ngc's turn arround time.but grey sheet lists pcgs as top grading company.and ngc in second..... i

ant11

ant11

NGC vs PCGS prices

the one true consumer driven market the numismactic field is one of if not the only truly consumer driven markets in fact. no matter what value a person puts on a coin, if there's not a consumer out there willing to pay that price, then the coin isn't worth that price. and as long as there are customers willing to pay the inflated price to get that PCGS slab...we will have the differential between the two. possible part of this is due to the snobbish attitude of PCGS that only allows their

silver dollar

silver dollar

re NGC vs PCGS

Makes no difference to me when buying and selling. I think it would have to do with the pops of the coins, that effects the price the most. And I see many more NGC 70's then PCGS graded 70's. Therefore, many people perceive PCGS to be stricter due to lower pops. Thus the plastic (coin) they are buying is percieved to be rarer, and commands an higher price. Really who cares about an MS70 vs MS69. Please tell me the difference. Point it out with photos. I often times hear PCGS won't cross NGC

100caps

100caps