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The first US coin to get a 70 grade was a 1964 proof cent.  It got bid up to $40,000 but it had developed spots and PCGS withdrew their grade guarantee before it sold and made a private deal with the owner to get it off the market.
The first circulation coin to get a 70 grade was a PCGS 1973 Lincoln cent.  Which also subsequently developed spots.

In many, if not all cases, the milk spots developed or became visible after the coins were slabbed.

No completely different reverse design


Definitely a different type, not a die variety.

No because for set registries you have to have slabbed coins and I am buying raw coins.  It's just that in the series I collect they often don't come cheap, even in low grade.

No because for set registries you have to have slabbed coins and I am buying raw coins.  It's just that in the series I collect they often don't come cheap, even in low grade.

I'm with Kurt, my upper limit is my budget.  So far the highest I've gone has been $6,000. (also the most expensive coin I have purchased)

I'm with Kurt, my upper limit is my budget.  So far the highest I've gone has been $6,000. (also the most expensive coin I have purchased)

No completely different reverse design


Definitely a different type, not a die variety.

No completely different reverse design


Definitely a different type, not a die variety.

It's actually a fake of a fake.  This piece is a fake, and it is copied from a vampire hub counterfeit.

It's a result of the Franco-Prussian War 1870-71.  France lost and had to pay reparations of 5 billion francs to Prussia.  Much a of it probably came as French gold.coin.  These were melted down and struck into the Prussian coins.  As you say there were 12 Million 10 Mark pieces struck in just two years 1872-73.  You compare this to the 12 million struck from 1890-1912, that's 12 million over a 22 years period so no individual year had that many coins.  So if the survival rates were relatively the same, there would be a lot fewer high grade coins from the 1890 - 1912 era available  than from 1871-72.

It's a result of the Franco-Prussian War 1870-71.  France lost and had to pay reparations of 5 billion francs to Prussia.  Much a of it probably came as French gold.coin.  These were melted down and struck into the Prussian coins.  As you say there were 12 Million 10 Mark pieces struck in just two years 1872-73.  You compare this to the 12 million struck from 1890-1912, that's 12 million over a 22 years period so no individual year had that many coins.  So if the survival rates were relatively the same, there would be a lot fewer high grade coins from the 1890 - 1912 era available  than from 1871-72.

It's a result of the Franco-Prussian War 1870-71.  France lost and had to pay reparations of 5 billion francs to Prussia.  Much a of it probably came as French gold.coin.  These were melted down and struck into the Prussian coins.  As you say there were 12 Million 10 Mark pieces struck in just two years 1872-73.  You compare this to the 12 million struck from 1890-1912, that's 12 million over a 22 years period so no individual year had that many coins.  So if the survival rates were relatively the same, there would be a lot fewer high grade coins from the 1890 - 1912 era available  than from 1871-72.

The first US coin to get a 70 grade was a 1964 proof cent.  It got bid up to $40,000 but it had developed spots and PCGS withdrew their grade guarantee before it sold and made a private deal with the owner to get it off the market.
The first circulation coin to get a 70 grade was a PCGS 1973 Lincoln cent.  Which also subsequently developed spots.

In many, if not all cases, the milk spots developed or became visible after the coins were slabbed.

The first US coin to get a 70 grade was a 1964 proof cent.  It got bid up to $40,000 but it had developed spots and PCGS withdrew their grade guarantee before it sold and made a private deal with the owner to get it off the market.
The first circulation coin to get a 70 grade was a PCGS 1973 Lincoln cent.  Which also subsequently developed spots.

The first US coin to get a 70 grade was a 1964 proof cent.  It got bid up to $40,000 but it had developed spots and PCGS withdrew their grade guarantee before it sold and made a private deal with the owner to get it off the market.
The first circulation coin to get a 70 grade was a PCGS 1973 Lincoln cent.  Which also subsequently developed spots.

The problem is on the DDO the 1's show strong notching at the bases and the upper end of the curl of the 9 does as well.  The subject coin shows no thrace of that notching and in fact the bases of the 1's appear to be thinner than they should if the notching was just blurred by wear.  I don't see anything that would convince me this is the 1917 DDO.

The coin is not just triple struck it is also broadstruck with another planchet in the coining chamber below it so no rev image.

Thanks for clarifying that for me Zadok.

The 1966 date was the date the design was adopted, the actual striking date as I said is found incused into the two stars.  This was a common practice with Spanish coins from 1949 to 1982..

The coin is not just triple struck it is also broadstruck with another planchet in the coining chamber below it so no rev image.

The coin is not just triple struck it is also broadstruck with another planchet in the coining chamber below it so no rev image.

The coin is not just triple struck it is also broadstruck with another planchet in the coining chamber below it so no rev image.

The 1966 date was the date the design was adopted, the actual striking date as I said is found incused into the two stars.  This was a common practice with Spanish coins from 1949 to 1982..