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This is the type of stuff I just don’t get. Do people buy things like this? I don’t know if the seller is good, bad or a little touched in the head but the price is just a bit steep. I do feel that if a buyer doesn’t take a minute and think about buying something like this then they deserve to own it. 
https://www.ebay.com/itm/134572724311?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=3FzRmuDwRkC&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=j9LjZZhwTEm&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

I would say it’s most likely stained.

On 10/27/2023 at 7:52 PM, J P M said:

Yes, I find some coins are just a mystery why they bid the way they do. I just don't get it. 67 and 68s are out there but do not show up very often

Not as abundant as one would think. 
 

2004 P Handshake pops NGC

MS-66 / 184 

MS-66 PL / 16

MS-67 / 51

MS-67 PL / 11

MS-68 / 0

MS-68 PL / 1

I don’t think the Philly coins came out of the grading room very well and then people are probably looking for the DDO as well. The Denver coins are easier to find in higher grades. I still don’t have a P Handshake example yet. 

On 10/21/2023 at 5:06 PM, J P M said:

One thing is for sure, it is the biggest nickel I have ever found.

It’s because it’s two nickels. 

I would probably just keep it as a piece of interest and pick up a new 64 D unless you really want it reholdered. Nice roll find by the way. 

No. There is no split on any of the bands. 

Nicer than the one in my album. Nice grab.

On 10/9/2023 at 9:30 PM, powermad5000 said:

Hmm...I wonder if the 1999 P that you have and the 1999 P that I have were broadstruck from the same set of dies.....

I feel like I have seen more error coins from 1999 than any other year…for Jeffs anyway. Not sure what was going on at the mints at that time. Maybe millennium madness. Hijinks or Tom foolery perhaps.

Looks like heat damage to me. Clad layers are separating from the core.

1955 Jeffs from Philly are notorious for having inferior planchet issues. This example is very dark yet the surfaces are pretty clean. Looks almost black in hand. 

Welcome to the forum. No value over face. Looks like a cup holder coin and has some staining or a bit of corrosion from exposure to the elements. No mint mark means it was minted in Philadelphia. 

After a bit more digging I am going to say that a good majority of the Denver coins came from the 2 special sets. I see that the numbers for the coins with the Explore and Discover label are quite high compared to just a regular 2019 D coin. Same for Kennedys from the Rocketship set. I didn’t see anything all that special about either set aside from a product limit of 50,000 sets each. Must have been a label thing.

Edit - Both TPGs encapsulated the one cent blank planchet from the Explore and Discover set. That may have been the reason.

On 10/7/2023 at 11:48 AM, RWB said:

Don't know...Were Denver coins of better quality than Philadelphia's?

Will be an interesting answer - if there is one.

I wondered about that myself. Or if there was a special label slot in registry sets? Doubled die from Denver?

I am always digging around in the NGC census for one reason or another and something happened to catch my attention. I noticed that there was a pretty big gap between Denver and Philly uncirculated/business strike coin submissions. Here are the numbers of total submissions.

Lincoln cent.             P 509 / D 1380                  
Jefferson nickel        P 269 / D 841           
Roosevelt dime        P 227 / D 1028   
Kennedy half            P 483 / D 8290

The quarter numbers were all higher for the Denver coins but the gap was not as significant so I didn't include them. 
The only outlier was the Sac $ with more Philly submissions than Denver. P 3289 / D 1559

I understand that the Kennedy numbers were affected by the release of the Rocketship set that included a Denver Kennedy and a proof Sac $. I also know there was the Explore and Discover set that included Denver and San Fran coins.
My question is why such a large margin between the Denver and Philly coins? Was there something special to look for with the Denver coins? Just curious.

On 10/4/2023 at 11:59 AM, powermad5000 said:

I want to say it was a 2017 D. He may have acquired it already slabbed but it is gorgeous!

Thanks. Yea It was already slabbed. All the nice coins come out of the uncirculated sets. As of now I believe there has only been one 2023 submission to NGC for Jeffs and it graded out at 67. Everyone is waiting for the 23 mint set to drop. Then we will see some nice clean ones pop up.