Woods020

You have heard from some very knowledgeable members and atleast one Lincoln nut. I would agree with others I would pass. The price isn’t good in reality and it has problems. There is a good reason this dealer hasn’t sent it for grading. If he thought it was choice BU I assure you any sane dealer would have it slabbed.

What is a designator?

Well I clearly have not given it enough credit. Kudos to NGC for supplying all of this info. I know it is a daunting task to go into die marriages and it is great to see this kind of support to collectors.

You are always good at the attributions I have noticed. Much appreciated!

The alignment of the obverse stars on the left side are an easy pick up as well.

Well you learn something every day. I had no clue the NGC explorer went into that depth. Looks like JR-5 to me. Is that what you were thinking?

Does anyone have a good attribution guide for these? I would like to determine die marriage. I need to buy a resource if anyone has suggestions or an online option? I looked and didn't see any.

Yep my theory is a no go.

Can we see the rim? I don’t know about these manganese concoctions, but many times acid will disproportionately target the copper inner layer of clad coins. Just curious to see if that might be the case here.

I can commiserate with that. I’m near the concession stand.

Sorry typo on my end. The OP said Japan and I just repeated. China it was.

It does look like a chop mark. These are usually seen on trade dollars which were minted with the intent of being used internationally. The Japanese would make these marks to verify silver content. It’s unusual to see on on a coin other than a trade dollar, but it stands to reason that any US silver coin coming into the shop would be verified the same way during the time.

I try to be wrong about once an hour just to make sure I don’t get out of practice. No worries.

Still are. I see guys talking about using them to tone coins on Facebook all the time. They think it’s perfect fine since it was a graded slab they are putting them in and it magically tones the coin.

What are your thoughts on that program? I have been debating on doing it for a while now.

Well done sir. Well done

Mark did the auction only include coins up to JFK halves? Maybe that was the confusion. He was expecting it to go through all denominations.

I’m sure @MarkFeldwould know. That does seem strange. I wonder if they had weather issues. We have some crappy weather blowing through right now that probably went through Texas.

When is he thinking it will publish? I want a copy.

Just to explain a little about what you are seeing there are two dies that strike the coin. One has the obverse design and the other the reverse. Ideally those dies are set in coin alignment, but from time to time they are rotated slightly. As others have said it needs to be drastically rotated to demand a premium.

There are coins worth hundreds of thousands listed on eBay, and are legitimate. The problem is sellers have to mark things up 10% to cover fees. This isn’t a big issue with a $20 coin, but gets to quickly be an issue for higher end coins. I think a lot of dealers list them on eBay for marketing thinking smart collectors will go to their site and see it is cheaper. I do that myself. Surprisingly people pay eBay prices often, and it would be better for me and them to go to my website. With that said agree with all others. eBay prices are going to be higher to cover the fees. People still buy at those prices so they are true comps, but still high. Other auction houses will have better info on higher end coins. Greysheet and auction houses don’t do much with coins under say atleast $100. eBay is the go to place for moderns and lower priced coins and that is your best bet. So really depends on what you want comps on.

Yeah I wasn’t even thinking dollars. I was more blown away by the coin. As long as the 42/41 isn’t harshly cleaned, which I don’t really see but could be the case, no way this one doesn’t blow past $3k and keep gaining speed.

I agree the 42/41 looks like it’s the real deal. I thought I could see the die crack in the first pics but it’s tiny and others had doubts so I was second guessing myself haha. The 21-D also has the correct numerals and characteristics on the date. These are nice coins your father left. I really hope the 42/41 straight grades. It should do well if it does. Spring for pictures I would love to see what it really looks like.

I think that’s when I would politely tell the insurance company I was very careful not to touch the gold they insured and left it in place. Didn’t want to mess with their property and it’s right where it was for them to recover.

Curious who all is going. I’ll be there and have a corner booth. Wondering who else from here is going?