RonnieR131

Well here it is, 12/08/2020, and my son can spot a fake Morgan a mile away now. He now has fun getting on Ebay and challenging HIS son to see how many fake Morgans for sale he can pick out in 15 minutes. Average is about 15, one a minute. Now if he will quit buying cleaned ones.  To make him feel better I told him "at least you didn't buy a cleaned counterfeit, like maybe some people do". He asked laughingly, "can there be anything worse than buying a counterfeit AND it being cleaned?"  "Yes sir. Selling a cleaned counterfeit"..

On ‎12‎/‎6‎/‎2020 at 7:19 PM, Coinbuf said:

where you can send it for proper disposal

You 2 could follow the lead all day long, I know because I see it.  Do the right thing, us newbies need the discards.

Hoghead, JustBob got me started on tokens. This year there should be a lot more shops open, thank goodness. The undiscovered tokens, the possibilities in every 'little ol shop'.--- Figures you'd have a Mr Gatti's token. Lol  --Maybe you can qualify for the virus 'skip a payment' on that token.  Love this thread!

Nice, and thanks.

It is not considered rare, that is, as far as increasing its value.. A keeper tho  

They answered all of your questions. Ditto on the 'Ask NGC', they're very congenial. I just wanted to add, 'scratch resistant' is the only way to go, it's already protected mine several times where I had small accidents. I wish my arms and legs were scratch resistant, I'd pay an extra $500.

1 hour ago, Alex in PA. said:

Oh wow!  Just love that M-60.  Sure would keep your neighborhood quiet!

I think that's Modwriter

Update on newbie son. He's advancing fast. More intelligent than me by a long shot. (except for chess and trivia pursuit)   I gave him 3 fake Morgans to compare to pieces that are advertised for sell/sale on websites. Sure enough, he's not only amazed by the shear amount of counterfeits offered by sellers, but amazed at all of the bidders. He said he felt like screaming 'No, no'!. I told him to go on ahead and scream, in a few weeks he'll be reduced to just gently shaking his head like the rest of us. I then gave him the 'hang in there' speech, don't get dejected, it is what it is, if it's too good to be true, etc etc... In a few months, I'll be asking him questions, sincerely so, because I truly value his opinion. --- Now he and I can work on his three brothers and three sisters and maybe their better halves to enter this interesting numismatic world!

Happy Thanksgiving to all. Not spending it with my extended family as usual, just wife and I. Thought I might be a little sad today, but no, I'm as happy as can be. Don't have to clean up the house and cook or anything. She is happy as well. Going to open up a $3200 bottle of whiskey that I intended to sell, swirl a few shots, and pet my dog. Hope every one of you keeps smiling all day!

6 minutes ago, Alex in PA. said:

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"You have to chase it, running backwards, and shoot it with a shotgun."

 

A skillset they don't teach in safety class.  LOL

1910 no mint mark

A son of mine is going to begin coin collecting. He's an honest man, and I know as time passes he'll see all of the fake Morgan dollars etc. on Ebay and elsewhere and ask me how sellers get away with all of the disgusting things they do. If he purchases a fake, he won't resell to regain his money. If he can't get refunded, it'll be destroyed. He bought a fake baseball card when he was 12 in the 80's, so he's already felt the hurt. He has money to burn, so I know he'll go from Lincolns to Double Eagles in no time. I've already enlightened him on Chinese fakes, American replicas, added mint marks, Omega Man of the past etc... I know he'll ask why counterfeiting is so widespread without being vigorously investigated. -- When does a fake become a counterfeit, when it's made or when it's sold?

As I looked, I wanted to say ms63, but like Just Bob said, wear on flag etc., but no wear hear and there. I just don't know about weak and strong strike issues for different years. AU 58.

13 hours ago, RWB said:

Public officials had to keep travel records, but no one then,or now, tracked people minute-to-minute - whether public or private employee or officer.

Mr. Snowdens great great grandson, Edward, said they do a pretty good job now of tracking people minute-to-minute, whether public or private employee.   

Just now read it all, twice. Amazing work kbbpll. Thank you.

My comments above about Ebay, personally 'not for me', was meant about Buying only. I recently sold through Heritage Auctions again, but this time I took a $300 hit there and a $800 hit here and $200 there, not that much, but it all adds up to a good loss. It was also my presumption from the start that they would sell on the 'low' end plus buyers fee, but 'whew', they did. I learned, the hard way, so many unforeseens. One coin in particular was grouped in with so many high end expensive coins, that when mine went to the live floor auction that weekend, it was one of the first auctioned, from 1 pm to 3 pm on Friday. A lot of people still at work, couldn't bid, no exposure, etc. I don't hold it against HA, it was just my ignorance of the different scenarios that could happen. Hindsight, Ebay, with a little Patience, would've been the better choice to Sell. (Great Collections, etc. seem to sit in limbo, stagnant for longer periods) Just my opinion on buying and selling. (for now)    

I've got several horses that I'll sell discounted shares in for $25. Unlike those $200 per share horses, you can be interactive with these, up close, and clean the stalls. While cleaning, you'll notice the huge 'positive yield' that they produce. You can even take a break and drink beer with them, they love it. The oldest is named Morgan. 

I agree with the poor pics and then the descriptions that are overdone, you can't help but think it's deception. One term that throws up the red flag for me personally, though it's not always true, is the word 'rare', or 'very rare' in the description. Ebay is legitimate, but not for me, too risky. Why chance the disappointment and then the hassle of correcting the bad situation, when, as JKK says, there's a good brick and mortar coin shop nearby. A GOOD relationship with the dealer to boot, your good to go. 

C4?

I learned a lot from researching all of the names on the list, and I'm going to delve even deeper on some of their accomplishments. As far as Tomaska goes, yes, it's too hard to watch. You can only hope that some good comes from it. The people in their 30's and 40's, after they receive their purchase, maybe they finally research what they've bought, realize they've been had, and enter into the world of numismatics discovering a new hobby. They've learned an important lesson from the very start, 'don't believe everything you see and hear, be careful'. The elderly couple, 60's 70's, bought something they can pass down to grand and great grand children, a nice gift. They feel good about it, roll over on their 'My Pillow', smile and go to sleep. Rick, he made more money, and can go look for more to sell, dealing successfully. He's perceived like a 'disgusting shuckster', like a traitor blinded by money, like the 10 cent bottle of 'miracle' elixir salesman of old, but I bet a lot of dealers that name call and mock him would forget their jealousy and swap places with him in a flash if they could. (We do need to see his tax returns tho ) 

Send it in for grade, I've got one exactly like it that I bought off of Jonescoin a few months back, so now there's two. I wish you would post both sides. Edit-- Never mind, it turned out he sold me a fake 1822 over 1909 over 1942. The mint mark on mine looked funny as well. I should have known, it just didn't 'look right' from the start. Edit: Forgot to say, just Kidding. B oh B.

I've only got maybe 10 years or so to go, surely I can hold out that long without getting my first cell phone or credit card. Surely.