RonnieR131

I'd throw that vessel into the fire pit before the little alien heads start popping out of that gooky hole. That might be the mother coin, the beginning, you can nip it in the bud right now, or at least send it to China.

Lysergic acid diethylamide costs money, pareidolia is free, and putting the two together, gazing at the thing with an open mind, a 1943 D/S over 1753 V with corroded rim damage, about 412 AD, is plausible.  Especially if you also consider the bump on the head, b g.  Edit: You ought to take the coin grading class, I heard NGC is hiring now....

The close up looks like Lee Harvey Oswald did after some Texas Rangers did some serious interrogating.

Alright Greg, I've looked at it enough. I want it. We might do some trading or something. I'll msg you in a few weeks, see how you feel about it after some time. He looks stressed, war does that to presidents.   Edit: I've got a 1931 S Lincoln that you...., never mind, talk to u later...... 

The several numismatic friends that you have, and are not associated with this forum, and are clueless, then they should read this thread. The half dozen or so people that help us on these newbie questions, they're bad to the bone, know their stuff. What one doesn't say, the next will, and so on. They're really a think tank problem solving group that know each other, and we're lucky to have them. There's no use on 'trying to figure out' what you have here, they've already said it. Take it to the bank. -- Later G....

I'm seeing different things every time I look at it, like staring at changing clouds. Show a different picture of the obverse Greg, if you would, a slight angle, maybe edit the color or lighting a little.  It's an interesting little find you have there. Every year my cheeks, chin, and neck seem to get thinner. Yep, that's an old man neck, he needs to hold his chin up a little higher and that chicken neck will go away.

Look it up on this NGC website opening page, Resources, then tab on NGC Coin Explorer, then type in the coin you want, 1944 cent, etc....If it's real, it's real, if it's fake, it's fake. Good luck peter al, and keep on searching........

I'm taking it off my want list. I'll still want it, but it would screw my budget up and I wouldn't be able to buy the other coins I'm watching at the moment.

What ever you do, don't clean it, or get fingerprints on it, just in case. Take care.

I thought it looked like an overly strong 1753 V coin the very second I saw it, so, in my opinion, it's not a 1943S. Real nice find, I wish I had one, especially one that is absolutely beautifully toned like yours. You should get it graded Jonescoins, it might get 'Specimen' graded, and that means it could be worth $183,500 or so. Research it and see if you can find another coin like it so you can compare yours to it. 

I didn't find anything on Ken Potters Error and Variety Coin list or Coneca, not specifically for the 8 over 3, so hang in there, someone will get to this later. Is there anything else going on with the coin, as in Liberty etc?.. Need a pic of the whole coin, obverse and reverse when you can. Hope you didn't clean it.

No Just Bob, we need a clearer cropped picture of BOTH sides, then we can TRY to give you our thoughts on its grade. Get ready to accept our opinions good or bad, but I can tell you it looks to be a normal 1987 Lincoln cent. That said, the cork has a die crack on top.

That's a very nice coin. The reverse looks deep and almost perfect. It's probably plated, the ears and hair and beard look filled in, particularly the ear. I wish I had it 'in hand', I'd take off running for the car, go home and study it a little closer.

No more abbr. by me, didn't know.

Don't wait very long to show the very Rare1982 D/S small copper date, show it now so we can see it. How did you come across it? Suspenseful indeed.

Yes peter al, it's post mint damage, gouged by something like metal. Not a double thing, sorry. ---- Way to go Greenland, you got it. Give those experts a little break on the easy ones that you know.. Later pal.al, later G..--------------- Greenland, those experts are gonna be gone someday, you gotta get ready to take their place before long, (machine doubling, small dates, "no, that's not a triple eyed double nosed flying purple people eater" (again)!! 

Was headed to the Tulip festival last year, plus some other places in the vicinity, but on the way the wife had this genius idea of stopping in a casino 'real quick like'. Six hours later, never made it to the area, out of time and barely enough gas to make it back to her parents house where we were staying east of Lansing. (thank g for tailwinds). Just another Fine mess she got me into. Going for sure next year. I don't guess 25 cents would buy a look at a tulip nowadays. Cool tokens, a lot of good things happened that year. (including me)   <''>

Same thing on other side. I don't have much JB, but I'm looking.

(How did you figure it the whizzing method on that one? 120 lbs of sandblasting, the poor coin must have suffered : ))-----   ---- I just figured it took a lot of pressure to 'pit' it like that. NCS Conservation wouldn't stand a chance on that coin. Physically damaged forever. Now the mental damage, the coin couldn't take it any more, went and got herself good and Whizzed. Thought it would be only right to join her with a double Crowne and cola, Buzzed. We buzzed and whizzed for awhile, laughed, and soon after, all was ok again, her self esteem returned.

Thanks for the concern tho Greenland. Appreciate that. I just broke the law. Melted it. Now I've got my first true melt value piece to put in one of those extra notches in my penny collection, and I get to describe what was melted and what it's true value is. (I'm sure I won't fib any, well, maybe just a little).That should wrap up this thread. t g.. 

14 minutes ago, Greenland said:

I would do more investigation I think it worth more than you think. Especially based on that story.. If true it could make it very valuable.. 

While you were responding, Greenland, I was editing the last sentence announcing I was just kidding about the story, so you didn't see that part. The S mintmark is way off. Thanks tho, G!    I'm going to nail it to a fencepost out back and let my grandson sight in his 22 cal rifle in on it. Or, ................never mind again. Never mind everything, he'd probably ricochet off a rock and hit one of my classic cars or something. I'm gonna walk down to the lake and throw that devil coin way out in the deep middle, be done with it. Sometimes evil things won't go away tho, I'll probably chip my tooth eating a catfish out of the lake this summer. Day 88.

Thank you very much for the genuine photo for comparison, and I got the news right from the top. My cell phone pics of the obverse and reverse turned out pretty good, compared to my usual ones. Close ups, ehh, bad. No need to send it in, value and grade if it was genuine a little too close to the cutoff 'worth it' line. Not to mention, I do have it in hand, and it's fake. Even my wishful biased eyesight can see it. The right thing to do is to take it out of circulation immediately. Or, I could scrape the S off, and put a CC in it's place. It's been passed down in the family for generations, Assistant Chief Engraver in 1930 and '31 was my grandfather. He was supposed to present it to President Herbert Hoover as a joke, a unique piece, but he kept it. Never mind. Thanks again. (I don't guess you can here me mumbling 'too good to be spooning true' and *^#%$@!!). --- I forgot to say the required part about "I'm just kidding' in case someone misconstrues my intentions.

 I just now read about the fake 1931 S Lincoln cent put out in the NGC news column a couple of days ago. Like I previously said, after roll searching many boxes of pennies from the bank, using Ken Potters Varieties, CONECA, etc..., never found anything, The few S's in the teens and twenties were all good, not 'very good', at best. The ONE coin I did find wasn't roll searching, it was from change from the drive thru fast food place about 5 weeks ago. Proud of it. Now reading that article, hmmm..., too good to be true is bouncing in my head. I don't see the 'raised bumps' around the date, and I don't THINK I see the bumps on the bust area that was described, but I'm not sure if I could recognize spark erosion transfer stuff. Do counterfeits, the latest, all look the same with 'spark erosion transfer'? And, does anyone notice anything unusual anywhere on it?  Once again, my usual bad lighting cell phone pics. Your knowledge appreciated, thanks

Thanks RWB, I plan on sifting through their library soon. ---- TP- Old Numismatists? LOL. Sense of humor is about all we have left nowadays. Like the Revenant says; "Day 88 and counting".