Jason Abshier

@Mohawkas soon as I get them in mail I’ll take some photos and post them on here in world coin section … to compare the photos . So far I haven’t been disappointed in the coins I’m getting from German dealers over seas they find some nice old copper coins… however the Deutsche post office DHL , takes forever sometimes to ship the US more like a month or so sometimes they ship within a week … these coins are going on 3rd week I’m still waiting

@GBrad theres this stuff from JAX If you’re just gonna experiment see how it turns out ? Give this a shot otherwise I wouldn’t put this on copper collectible coin . If you’re putting together set of Raw Lincoln cents circulated-AU condition I don’t see the harm . JAX also sells a “darkener” that can darken copper to a darker tone . ****I’ve never used this stuff so to anyone using it or going to use it ?USE IT AT YOUR OWN RISK**** I don’t recommend messing around with old copper coins as it took some of them hundreds of years to form that patina on surface of copper in which how they were stored over the years so we can obtain them for our collections today

Lately I been working on my German copper coins they come in all shades I must say , for 150+ year old coins they seemed to hold up well just have to accept copper is copper try not to alter it I wouldn’t put oils on copper like WD40 or motor oils , not even baby oil it may turn corrosive over long period of time on copper but I don’t know but what I do know if you try clean it , it turns pink I’ve seen my fair share of pink coins for sale such an eye sore .. I’ve got 4 copper German grand duchy Baden 1 kreuzers on way from Germany . I like them just the way they are

Since you mention the old split grading , I wouldn’t mind seeing that come back some day for circulated coins but I highly doubt it would … when I’m buying raw coins from German dealers over seas they grade split grading style for some older coins that show some wear but the reverse might look AU or MS .

Ebay -(probably your best bet). also can try to sell on here on coin market forums . MA-shops- (might have to be a established dealer to be trusted in MA-shops to sell coins on there) although I’m not sure I don’t sell on MA-shops but I do buy from there from time to time . Vcoins -is almost same as MA-shops but I like MA-Shops better instagram - (I’ve heard of some younger collectors selling coins on Instagram and Facebook market place) collectors corner- is a big coin buying/selling site maybe can join there might have good luck

If I had that kind of gold laying around to offload I wouldn’t spend it into silver eagles , I’d dump it on market and turn around and buy the best “key date” coins I could or buy graded Saints in highest grade I can get them . If you really like silver eagles I’d buy them in MS/PF 70 already graded and call it a day. Otherwise they might look good especially the last year eagle reverse then theres plenty of them laying around with nobody really interested in buying them raw and graded . Silver eagle are sometimes too overrated.

Nice V.D.B i like older age chocolate copper , sometimes red just look awkward on older copper that should have oxide to brown . If I had to grade it I’d say either in upper limit of AU+ or MS60-MS61 at the most.

I found 2020-W with privy mark as well but it circulated with scratches all over it , low and behold I found West Virginia quarter with a die break on reverse @ 4:00 position … all in my pocket change on the same day … I played lottery that day thinking it was my lucky day , no luck there didn’t even hit one number on ticket

If anyone finds any sideway RPM “W” mintmark quarter stamped over P or D mintmark quarters those were made by me too . Very very rare I only made 3 of them with a special W punch tool and ball peen hammer . I got frustrated I couldn’t find any “W” quarters so I made my own and plan on sending them into grading to get my own variety for them . I left them on my night stand one day but my wife used them in a vending machine never gotten around to making some more RPM “w” quarters

Nah the mint didn’t do that … I do that in my garage when I’m bored nothing else to do I stamp all kinds of stuff into circulated coins , then watch people post them up on here I think its hilarious

Again we all have to remember grading is subjective based on opinions , CAC is no different . Not saying it’s garbage or anything like that I don’t hate CAC it just doesn’t all make sense to me …But ! hey if it makes money then great for you . Some collectors just don’t see the whole point of green CAC bean, I can understand a gold Bean … but green bean just an opinion saying “yeah this coins is right for the grade” . How about (+) graded coins getting a CAC sticker ? (I find it odd) . Have collectors gotten lazier just depending on CAC stickers to tell them which coin to buy ? Just like drinking the PCGS special brewed kool-aid (assuming all PCGS coins are far more superior than any other graded coin out there)

I don’t hate CAC coins I just don’t buy them . All it was to create a secondary market for John Albanese … PCGS and NGC came out with the (+) grade I believe before JA ever came out with CAC … I noticed the CAC stickers have saved some of the older PCGS/NGC slabbed coins from being cracked out dealers rather sell these older slabbed coins with a CAC sticker for a small premium (I can see a market there to be fair) … what I don’t get is someone has a freshly new slabbed graded coin then send it off to CAC to get a bean put on it (that don’t make much sense to me) they tried to do the same thing with world coins awhile back I’ve seen a few slabbed world coins with “WING” Beans on them . It looked silly but I think it was favorable among world coin collectors “CAC of world coins” it fell out of favor , not sure if they still do it or not … again I don’t even own a graded world coin with a WING bean on it here’s an example photo from Online (not my picture)

You can sell coins on here as well but silver eagles may either be a hit or miss on here unless it’s 70 graded you might get lucky with someone building a registry set that will buy it … EBay or great collection can take care of your selling needs if you price it right it will probably sell but not guaranteed , theres also MA-shops but that is a more tight knitted dealer site not just open to any random person who prefers to sell coins on there unlike EBay

@VKurtB I myself don’t even own a single CAC sticker coin . I either bought it for grade say MS64 or MS64+ (+) grade or buy the next grade up MS65 I never caught on with what is all the hype about CAC is about . Again I haven’t been collecting US coinage for a long while. I see a CAC just as a secondary market some people get carried away by the CAC I know guys that’s all they collect is coins with CAC sticker from selling point it works for them oh well to each their own

Basically if you had say MS64 coin then you had same coin same date same grade MS64 but it looks way better than other MS64s should it sell it for same price ? It maybe possibly MS65? CAC basically points out which coins are in higher limits for that grade help open up the market for more better “eye appeal” for US coins only .

Certified acceptance corporation AKA (CAC) they send in coins that have been graded by PCGS or NGC . They get green bean is what we call them or sometimes a rare “gold bean” . It’s for coins that are in upper limit for the grade they were assigned (they possibly grade higher or not “gold bean” green beans however may or maybe not grade out higher) they somewhat help increase selling profit margins a little 10%-30% depend on the type of coin , grade , and demands … however CAC will purchase coins off you if they have a CAC sticker . Not sure if they still do it or not but John Albanese started CAC he was a founder at PCGS and NGC I believe he was grader at one time also at NGC (but I’m not sure 100%) https://www.caccoin.com

@Woods020 yeah theres a small market for fantasy issue coinage , Daniel Carr comes to mind I’ve seen some of his issues he struck have followers that aren’t afraid to run a bid up over $100 or more for a fantasy issue . Future market ? I have no idea what the future holds ,unless they keep market interesting offering more unique pieces from time to time and form a bigger collector circle it may take off good for them . Same could be said about the “so called Dollars” crowd as well they collect a lot of unique so-called dollars actually making a small devoted collector’s community starting to keep information a few websites are dedicated to So-called dollars not really my taste but I stopped and read up on them some of the stuff is cool and unique

I double looked at picture blew it up , they do look artificially toned , the last time I didn’t look at picture well enough the upper left one is a dead give away of AT Light blue/grey around rim . The 2nd down on right with toning in middle of the coin is just too bright looks like AT as well the other coins are little harder to tell due to lighting they look copper/brownish on my phone screen they would look how a silver coin would age turning yellow then brown … hard to tell by pictures and lighting if you take notice some of the coin’s rims are showing in capsules bright as the day ! Natural toning leaves some type of aging and toning on the rim as well

Coin Envelopes and the environment in which they were stored , I’ve seen wild toning on earlier Libertads (there are fake artificial toning as we know I can’t really see his pictures clearly) not saying they are fake toned , fake toning looks awkward and very bright looking. I have a guy at work who has a small handful of 1986 ASE his dad died left for him oddly he got them from a dealer at that time they were in paper envelope every one of them turned to a rainbow Some of the most vibrant and best literally jaw dropping toning in my opinion are coins I’ve seen in Europe coins stored in wooden coin cabinets.

On another note @RWB there’s also a lack of reading too on numismatics and history , a lot newer collectors should really start cracking at the books and reading online about history of coinage before even buying or coming on here expecting every one to give them the answers and do their homework for them … I noticed it a lot on here I bet 99% of the new collectors don’t even read a single article or a book about coin collecting and numismatics …

#2 , #8 , #10 I strongly agree on with the newer collectors trying to get into the hobby , I’ve been saying it for years I’ve noticed coin shows are getting smaller and smaller crowd wise … sure a lot of us older collectors who been at it for years or few decades are what still keeping the “classic market” alive … Newer collectors expect to buy a coin , by the end of year they expect it to be double the price they paid for , grading raw coins even slabbed coins have become a lost skilled that is true … how many here still collect “raw” coins (a large majority of US coins already been slimmed picked and graded) but there still a lot raw material out there , 3/4 of my collection is raw coins a lot of them are grade worthy but I’m not in a hurry to send them in for grading I have no intentions to sell right now so therefore slabbing is unpractical to me as of now. I often say it Collecting coins is a passion and a love affair it’s not all about striking it rich . If that were the case you’re better of investing your money in stocks or a saving accounts don’t even bother trying to collect coins if you wanna get rich

You think grading peace dollars are difficult ? Some of the hardest coins to grade by a photo is early copper coins . They come in so many shades . dark brown , light brown , chocolate brown , red/brown , reddish , red/orange and the ugly (environmental damaged coins ) . Makes it literally impossible to grade a raw copper coin by pictures even PCGS photo grade doesn’t even come close . The color and the way the coin reflects the light during photo shoot doesn’t do it justice showing wear on high spots and nicks and bag marks… sometime time when all I have is a picture online when I’m buying a early copper coinage I look real closely for strike how strong it is (the best I can) , it’s like taking a gamble shooting in the dark sometimes when I get the coin in hand it doesn’t please me too much therefore I will never ever spend no more than $100 on early Raw copper coins over Internet with pictures … only way I’ll spend more on copper coins is if I can examine the coin in my hand before I buy or unless it been graded…

More like the watered down version of 1978 Jimmy Jone’s kool-aid …

Send them a request see what they say ? Doesn’t hurt to ask

We all seen the dealers on tv trying to sell a gold coin when we know it’s more like “gold plated” a worthless coin only meant for a collector to put in a small glass box on his table as a reminder how his beloved wife got ripped off by a TV coin dealer trying to impress him with a so called “if its to good to be true it must be deal” … there are fakes floating around everywhere even on bourse floor at coin show not all dealers are skillful at spotting fakes they are human just like me and you (although we share in common we hate fakes !) don’t laugh I once got stopped outside a pawn shop after I was snooping around for coins back in 2009-2010 I didn’t buy anything that day but I was stopped while walking down sidewalk from the pen shop by a hustler trying to sell me gold buffalos that were looked to be gold plated they looked so bad ! He was asking for $1,100 each . Even a blind man could of seen they were fake knock offs with a plating job ! I told him sell them in the pawn shop see what owner says . He gave me a dirty look