Jason Abshier

Actually the coin you are showing in picture isn’t red at all looks fuzzy in picture looks like some kind form of environmental damage or awkward color for an old worn Wheat cent or any copper type of coin …Copperish “Red” is only for MS type of coins you’ll know when you see it, most old uncirculated copper coins are either red/brown or Brown and chocolate brown, (if they look pinkish color? Chances are it been dipped or cleaned) that’s beauty of collecting copper coinage it stands out a mile away when it been altered or dipped or harshly cleaned , silver is tricker to spot if it been cleaned only with close up pictures or under loupe you can tell it been cleaned , dipping is another subject over dipped coins scream they been ruined can make you go blind if you look at them too long . But lightly properly dipped silver coin looks bright white which some collectors prefer. Copper cannot be dipped Successfully Although I heard stories, but I have see it to believe it … so don’t ever try to dip copper coinage

It could of been damaged before dealer gotten it then had it covered up where hologram is before you bought it , cause they know some collectors like me would point it out and offer a slight reduced price ! I collect older NGC slabs to preserve them from crack outs if I see hologram missing or ripped off whatever I offer a lower price . I feel the old slab is part of the deal when buying a coin as well . It’s like buying an antique from a bygone time , some folks are carried away with the crack out game they crack coins out of these older holders once the damage is done it’s done ! Never coming back, they are becoming scarcer and scarcer as the years going on. When it comes to older coin holders the old saying “buy the coin not the holder” doesn’t apply with old school holders fewer and fewer survivors out there . Especially old school holders with world coins in them

No problem , a lot old old world coins can be found in nice raw condition and priced fairly . I believe a lot has to do with collectors from other countries don’t collect like we do here in the U.S. but lately some of the world coins been going up in prices slightly due to collectors taking interest in older coins with precious metal and so on rarity as well these collectors were getting them super cheap ! Now prices are starting to climb for certain world rare coins. It still a slow market in world coins one starts to dabble in it gets hooked so many world coins to collect and so much history you just can’t get bored

Careful downloading PDF files I was warned on here that might be a form of piracy with no copyrights

I only send in coins That are a “hot series” or high MS coin for my collection mostly (classics or world coins) not the modern stuff … Most modern coin grading is overrated !!! The only modern stuff I collect is maybe bullion with nice designs that doesn’t even warrant needing to be send in for grading … if I were to devote my collecting hobby to “modern graded coins” I would buy them already slabbed but a dealer …. Sending modern stuff is like I might as well empty my pockets at end of week and send in my spare change for grading pay a huge grading /handling/shipping fee bill for coins that nobody will probably not buy anyways when they can find their own in pocket change or bank rolls. most of time I just buy a coin that is already graded from a dealer save myself a lot time sitting around waiting for coin while it being graded paying all fees and blah blah blah … in fact I won’t send in coins for grading unless I have 10-12 coins I feel might warrant grading even then I think twice sometimes third time thinking about it and say Nah ! They go back in 2x2 remain raw . Save my money buy more coins

I agree with Mohawk , if these are coins for your personal collection ? Keep them way they are not worry so much about sending them in for grading . I myself own a lot silver bullion coins and Raw coins , I have no intentions sending them in grading if I were to sell them anytime soon then I would probably send a few of my better or best coins in for grading. One must understand some coins are “worthy” being graded by NGC/PCGS and some coins aren’t worthy at all basically waste of time and money having the coin graded . I’ve seen my fair share of coins worn down circulated in graded holders like who heck would even send that in for grading . A lot “modern” bullion coins and modern Regular strike coins do not need send in for grading , it maybe cheaper and less hassle just to buy a graded modern coin from a dealer who sent in for bulk load and paid the bill to have the coins graded

Sounds like the Extra crispy version . I’ve heard of counterfeiters being hung and having their hands chopped off , never heard of the boiling water/oil death

There an old saying I often say “never trust anyone” that includes coin buying and collecting never ever trust a dealer judgement they are human can and do make mistake just as anyone else it’s up to you to educate yourself and familiarize yourself with coins . If price is cheap and too good to be true? it’s probably a fake but that doesn’t always apply . If your unsure what coins to buy, then buy graded coins that been authenticated by NGC/PCGS (not saying there isn’t fake slabs floating around) but double check the certification numbers you’ll know your getting the “real deal”

@VKurtBit gotten so bad with fakery stuff the Chinese are even making fake sport memorabilia, fake old old baseball cards , fake baseball autographs . One guy I work with collects a lot graded baseball cards and memorabilia he told me it’s getting really bad with Chinese fakes lately

Thats a battle us serious collectors fight everyday in our hobby ! Takes a good eyes and knowledge of looking a lot lot of coins over the years we can spot fakes most of the fakes come from China . Some are ugly fakes look like a little kid made it and some are precise like the Peace Dollar you have but a good set of eyes can see the difference. Check on side of coin make sure it’s not inscribed “free Asian buffet only on fridays” 🤣

I grew up into collecting my uncles collected coins , my Father collected coins , But it was my grandfather who took me to coin shops and small coin shows and flea markets back in the days . They collected the average circulated coins (Morgans, peace dollars , seated dimes, bust halves and so on back then mostly all US issued coinage) … as I got older I got more serious into collecting buying Mint state coins my favorite series were (Mercury dimes , walkers , Buffalo nickels) I sold off all my US coin collection about 10 years ago , I now focus more on German coins and other world coins . Anyone ever see Krause German boom 1500-present ? It’s about 4-1/2” thicker than an old telephone book entirely devoted to just German coins , I haven’t looked back on US coinage since I don’t know when I’ll ever return but the US market is hyped over (US coins only) I even talked to few collectors from other countries one of them asked me saying the (US market is odd market “price wise” for certain common US coins and they aren’t even that rare plenty of them can be found in same grade any-day with a basic online search or coin show! Why such high prices ?) compared to European market a lot coins are much much lower mintage figures and more scarce than US coin would ever be they don’t see the high hyped up prices as US coins do . It’s a hard one to answer about US market how can you blame high prices on “supply and demand”??? When theres tons and tons of US coins that are so easy to find in just about any grade your looking for

Doesn’t look legit to me either the rays look a lot thicker compared to an original Peace dollar … By the way welcome to the forums

My vote for ugliest coin would be a Susan B Anthony dollar reminds of my angry grandmother ! No lie

@Mr.Bill347they may go slightly on price for a short while , I wouldn’t bet my entire paycheck they will keep going up in price . We have remember the market is based on supply and demand is which drives the market higher … ASE were mass produced plenty of fish to choose from out in seas of coin collecting they are everywhere just about every dealer has a pile full of ASE they are so common I don’t even know why prices are so high for them . Not talking about burnish , reverse proof , other odd low year “key dates” I’m talking about the typical years very easy to find anywhere for life me I never understood why high marked prices for ASE ? The market will always be flooded with ASE they will never ever see circulation at all

I’m not into the ASE , but over the years I’ve had a few that I took in on a trade quickly sold them. Only ASE that I really like looking at were the reverse proofs they were unique to me …the only bullion that a collect are bullion coins series that change on year basic the design changes each year I’ll buy a example . Like the Germania mint allegories and Germania series each year they make a different design I’ll collect those but have no intentions on sending them in for grading just for my personal collection … ASE are overrated after awhile they get boring collecting them

Looks like a Fantasy issue , doesn’t look bad , I doubt it contains any silver or precious metal ?

Also don’t fall for this scam as well ! The company selling these bogus rolls of walking liberty halves and Morgan dollars are ripping uneducated folks off taking their money not shipping anything I’ve heard of few people getting ripped off . There is no such thing as “last state restricted Morgan dollars”

True I consider any coin that was plated or altered… damaged or cover-up while they may look neat and so on a serious collectors won’t pay high prices for them lately a lot of silver bullion been some how altered and colorized or what ever , it’s considered a form of altered damage

My one great uncle was a POW in WW2 , the Germans shot his foot up had to have surgery wore a special shoe on his foot … then my one older uncle was a POW during Vietnam war for short period of time he managed to escape and oddly enough he signed up for a second tour in Vietnam saw a lot heavy combat in jungles , later died from them chemical they called Agent Orange they used to defoliate the thick jungle in Vietnam he was heavily exposed to that toxic chemicals they used on daily basic in some rugged heavily Forrest areas, napalm as well was another nasty smelly chemical they used to burn down stuff quickly he said he never ever could get the smell of napalm out his nose and head . while POW coin may look cool there’s so much more to it they really captured the eagle with chained foot on this coin they hit it out in ball park ! It’s one of the best I’ve seen to date

If you guys like the design of the eagle , don’t forget to overlook the 1994-P (proof) and 1994-W (uncirculated strike) P.O.W museum $1 silver commemorative coin they definitely did a good job on the eagle .

OBW rolls bring in a premium, they will have federal reserve banks name on it certain federal banks pull an even higher premium, what you had was a typical roll of mixed circulated wheat cents that were wrapped in roll by a bank possible searched at that time by a collector they are typical to find . I don’t collect OBW anymore but I did have one last roll OBW 1956-P wheat cents out of curiosity I decided to crack it open ( I never cracked an original bank roll ) they were red and mint condition several of them had small dark freckles on them ! Towards the middle of the roll I noticed they started to get die crack just above Lincoln’s hair, I also had 2 “cracked skull” Lincoln I sold to a friend he really wanted them literally begged me I said okay I sold them to him for like $10 each . This was about 10 years ago I still have the remaining 48 coins put back in ripped open end of the roll and resides in plastic tube they are still red ! To this day. We should all have a chance to crack open an OBW someday

It’s reputable grading company . They ain’t as big as NGC and PCGS … ANACS and ICG are about on par with each other , over the years I’ve bought a few ICG graded coins as well as ANACS coins I like the older ANACS white holder back when they were tougher on graded and more consistent on grading …

That’s a very nice coin love the patina on it ! The way a 130+ year old coin should look you planning on sending it in for grading ?

@Mowhawk J-(Hamburg) , G-(Karlsruhe) , E-(Muldenhutten) seems to be the desirable mints of 1 and 1/2 marks series among collectors … someday I hope to own a 1908F (stuttgart) but at $5k-$6k+ for a tiny half mark in VF condition that’s a lot dough to drop on a coin in the series . Tough one to find at but only 1,000 were minted but real questions is how many survived ? I’ve never seen one in person in Mint state condition

I’ve seen same thing you were talking about, I asked onetime I saw 3rd feather they said it was “faint 3rd feather” but therefore it’s still called a 2 feather. Another collector who collects buffalos told me there are only if I remember 16-18 years that are “truly known 2 feather variety” kinda confusing