Jason Abshier

@Taler TalesI came back because I forgotten to mention when it comes to Thaler coinage they were like a very large silver dollar at that time mostly probably circulated among the richer people back then since the poorer were not able to obtain a Thaler . I’m sure you might know the difference between a “duchy” was state that formed a allegiance with larger kingdom together . As “Grand duchy” was a state that was ruled and more independent on its own . They all had different thalers at that time with different denomination based on their wealth within their respective states at that time before they all became a larger kingdom which enter the “German empire era” only one Grand dutchy remains today that is Luxembourg 

@Taler Tales I collect German state coinage as well thalers are interesting large Coins with beautiful designs on them it’s all about silver contents in the coins some German state areas were wealthier than others at the time they were able to make larger types of thalers. Here’s an interesting article about thalers 

https://www.money.org/ana-blog/thalers

On 11/1/2021 at 1:26 PM, Keith Dee said:

I’m just curious about the grading process and what gives a coin like this a grade of MS-65? Does a die crack void these of that kind of grade even though it’s common in these? Sorry once again if this is a dumb question but how are us dummies supposed to learn without asking them lmao.

Usually the Steelies are graded based on strike sharpness and luster , higher luster brings better grade … this steel cent shown above in pictures is typical mint state average what we mostly see , keep in mind steel cent is a very common coin to see they didn’t circulate very much as they were only made for 1 year a lot of them were hoarded back can be found very easily . 

Maybe give out business cards private appointments to customers , set out a small sign saying you’re only buying certain coins for certain series get expertise in certain series might narrow it down. Buying silver from sellers must be annoying while you’re trying to establish a coin collector’s business , everyone wants to dump their silver or junk bullion at a coin show instead of focusing what coin collecting is really about . You might do better online selling directly to other collectors 

I agree as well looks like it was harshly polished die before striking the coin all lines flowing in same direction under wings and lettering . Whizzing would of been all over the eagle and wings somewhat polishing the details down as well . I don’t see this on this coin definitely looks like harshly polished die or they used a very stiff wire brush to clean the dies up before striking the coin it left the marks on it perfectly in fields and not right over the eagle 

AU you can clearly see eagle breast feathers are worn , I also see a rim nick as well 

If I were to spend that money on that type of coin I would only buy it slabbed by NGC or PCGS . What about raw ? I’d only spend that money on raw coin in that caliber only if I can examine the coin in person to make a better judgement of the coin I wouldn’t buy it raw off Ebay or some other online selling platform. But I do see it all time people buying/bidding on expensive coins on eBay or other places like Etsy I guess some people do have deep pockets to spend money away silly not even think twice about what they are about to pay for 

For sure Wyoming is the ugliest state quarter ! Florida , Ohio , Texas are on my list of ugly quarters as well …

Nevada tops them for most detailed worked , probably best looking one out of all state quarters 

Digital grading its missing a tiny digital pixel on the obverse Grade (DMS 99.4) DMS digital mint state 

We’re moving into a new ‘era’ time to raise the grading scale to MS/PF 100 get ready to learn how to grade/collect cryptocurrency. 🤔

Doesn’t look like 3-1/2 legged to me either . Although color looks off looks almost like environmental damage or if it was dipped in an acid long ago not washed off properly ? 

On 10/14/2021 at 10:40 PM, zadok said:

i was just ruffling QA's rooster feathers a bit

Careful now , don’t fluff the the rooster 🐓 

On 10/14/2021 at 2:17 PM, Vero86 said:

Maybe I did not look out on the right place for information, the coin is worn yes, it's been in a jar for years, and Im practically new on this, I apologize for not doing homework and I appreciate your comment. Will try next time. Than you sr.

Sorry if I sounded mean . Wasn’t trying to be , lately on here there been numerous of questions about same thing you just asked about “U” and “V” on peace dollars and standing liberty quarter …. Some new people come on here ask us for advice they literally turn into a aggressive poster that won’t accept anyone’s advice on here literally wasted some of members time on here even replying to their post …if you stick around and read some of these newbie post from time to time you’ll see what I’m talking about … some members literally stopped helping some of the newer members with questions because of that reason alone…  

today with power of internet there’s countless articles written on peace dollars you don’t even have to go to a library anymore , lots and lots of information out there VS what we had back in the old days going to libraries and reading up on information … 

your coin is cool it came from your mom I’d would keep it , welcome to the forums hope you pick up the coin collecting hobby like rest of us have. 

Alright I’ll do your homework for you a simple google would of bought it up … some believe it’s Latin , there is no “U” in Latin , during that period of time when peace dollars and standing liberty quarters were minted it’s was Deco period they used “V” instead of “U” … some also believe the “V” was used for Victory after WW1 . 

The “V” is normal in peace dollars and as well as on standing Liberty quarters … grade ? is Melt value its pretty beat up 

On 10/12/2021 at 11:56 AM, RWB said:

But.....but...LQQK closely.....the obverse is a very rare rotated die....must be worth thousands !!!!!!!!!!!******!!!!!

I don’t want to look at it too closely , might start seeing fuzzy doubling will add more unnecessary value to this special specimen 

Probably only worth melt value , the fancy fake knock off authentication doesn’t contribute any value for it either 

Even if it was an error , world error coins carry little to no premium . Unlike a U.S coins . Error coin collecting is a U.S fetish … I’ve seen tons of errors and double dies and off stuck world coins nobody cared 

On 10/11/2021 at 7:18 PM, Modwriter said:

Wow. The 2020 Krause World Coin catalog is 2,400 pages and 5.45lbs. That is like half a case of copy paper. Im sure it is printed on telephone book lightweight paper.

There’s also the DVD version 

On 10/11/2021 at 6:10 PM, Mel_in_PNW said:

Thanks Jason. I wasn't particularly interested in whether my Aussie and Canadian coins were valuable. I've been doing this on/off (mostly off) since 2010. I showed the AU and CA coins to a dealer in a shop in Seattle and he said I should ask around as he knew nothing about circulated coins from those countries. I'm keeping the coins, no plans to sell, I just like having them. In the past I've bought a couple of books on numismatics and still refer to them but they're exclusively for US coins and both are over a dozen years old.

Thanks Again.

If you want a book about world coins look into Krause world coin book … those books are size of an old phone book. Some dealers only deal in US coinage only they don’t know much about world coins. World coins are definitely cool some are worth something and some ain’t worth anything . I myself changed over and left my US coin collection behind about 10-12 years ago I mostly focus and collect on old/modern German coinage 

Nice coin JP 👍

You can do this everyday asking if something is collectible , everything is collectible if one put their heart and mind to it …. Now worthiness? That only learned by doing research if you ask on here a lot and not do your homework eventually folks are going to get tired answering it over and over on here . Seems like a lot new people on here are only worried about if something is worth $$$$ instead of really learning the history of numismatic and why we collect numismatic , YouTube ! And others lame videos have ruined this hobby over last several years . Every new person thinks they have double die or some rare “needle in hay sack” coin when it’s not …

But if you stick around on here and wanna take collecting a little serious and buy coins that are worth money you’ll learn a lot on here from some of us who been doing it for many years 

Can probably soak the heavy dirty ones in acetone Verdigris can be removed with acetone soaking . Just Hope for the best that’s all you can do. Sadly a lot coin collections were ruined like this everyday from bad storage methods for many years 

Only thing that may remove that is soaking in acetone , or dipping it … I would return it to the seller it’s his problem