KarenHolcomb

Sorry. Not FS. Full Steps will not have a single mark on them period. None. Nada. Zilch. 

One coin per post. 

Still a very nice coin. I like it.

24 minutes ago, Tridmn said:

The two above are different years. They look the same though. So should I check just the same year or does it matter as far as year

Always same year AND mint facility.

I wish I knew where to find all the cool little emojis y'all seem to have at your fingertips.

Kurt, we're you using himor up there with the whole Simba thing? You nutty boy, you. I did laugh, so it was funny. Did it feel good to be light hearted for a second?  You need not worry about that beautiful box of Wheat Cent Errors any longer. I will pay the shopping and you can send them to me. Right up my alley, they are. If they do turn out to be junk I will melt them down and make some more bullets. Sounds like a fantastic idea to me. Better than a door stop, for sure.

Thompson, I am sad that you aren't this for the hobby. I think Kurt is spot on as far as how to value the cleaned ones. I was going to suggest cutting the priest in half and I guess that'd be about the same. You could also deslab them and sell them raw on auction as possibly cleaned and get a bit more out of them.

Have fun with them. That's what life is all about.

Kind of looks like glue that has been away from the glue for a while. At least it looks the same as the ones that were in my 20th Century frame when I bought it. 

As 1950 isn't a key date of anything for a Franklin and with the condition this one is in, it is likely worth less than $5 or melt value, whichever is higher. But Silver is up and rising, SOOO...

14 hours ago, Patchedwoodworks said:

Thanks for everything I was wondering how this happened. Where could I look to try go find a value??? 

@Patchedwoodworks The best place to find values for errors is EBay. I hate eBay but use it for this purpose only. You look at past auctions and only look up similar errors and then gauge the value from what others like it have sold for. I would say that Greenstang's estimate is about right with it being a WheatBack.  To find out about Lamination Errors and any other known errors I suggest looking at error-ref.com . It can be confusing at first but once you figure out how to navigate the site it will be an invaluable resource to any error hunter. Happy Hunting!

Something I've not seen before. Possibly a filled die. I wouldn't expect it to add to its value though.

Once I get this house done, or even this year if we get approved for this HELOC,  I would love to go to Gettysburg for a combined weekend of ghost hunting and the show there. Still have over 2 weeks left to see what can be. Fingers crossed for me please. Heck, if we couldn't get a room I'd be thrilled to camp out in the bed of the truck near a battlefield. They have that show twice a year, right?

13 minutes ago, Dukemnm said:

The Loup I use is 7X. Then I should not be using the microscope? 

Well, you use what you are comfortable with. Just keep those things in your head while you do. You know, looking through a loupe or glass can really screw your eyes and every ones eyesight is different. Like me, I never had worn glasses when I started a couole years ago, now I do and I also use a 30x loupe. I find that the scope gives my eyes a break. And my fingers from how you gotta hold the coin and the loupe

One thing to remember, and I think one of the vids mentions this too, is that when you send a coin in to be graded the Graders don't use a loupe any stronger than like 7 or 10x magnification. So if you are looking through a 20 or 30x mag loupe or taking pictures with a 400x camera you are going to see things they are not going to see. The same goes with errors and defects. If you can't see an error or defect with a 7 or 10x mag then they aren't going to either. Although...they have likely been looking at way more coins than us and some stuff probably jumps off the coin at them. See?

8 hours ago, VKurtB said:

They showed the first four state American Innovations designs at Rosemont. They're coming. This year's will be kind of late. By next year, I suppose they'll make it into the regular Uncirculated and Proof Sets.

Delaware - star classification system (I was rooting for duPont nylon)

Pennsylvania - Salk polio vaccine

New Jersey - Edison electric light

Georgia - some particular type of garden (I haven't read up on this yet)

Yeah, the garden is kinda stupid imo. My Grand father retired from DuPont here in Belle. I think they make paint or did. After 9/11 all the chemicals were removed from the area and Carbide closed down. DuPont is still open though. It's about the only thing that is.  The Polio Vaccine is a winner I think as well as the light. Can't live comfortably without either. Lol! I loved the 1st Patent.

You WROTE on a NOTE?! Shame on you. Lol! 

I had planned to collect the Innovation Coins but am wondering if there will ever be a 2nd. I figured at 6 bucks a piece they were within my means without even hurting me at all but it seems they will do each years all at once which will make it more difficult. Such is life.

The 'Sir' thing is only how I speak and a show of respect.  I try to type as I would speak. I often say things like Dear Sir in the middle of a sentence. So please don't take offense. I do hate the internet and all this typing because nobody can HEAR inflection through print so I feel it necessary to embellish to get that acros. Which is probably why I seem twice as rude online. Tis never my intention. Lol! 

6 minutes ago, VKurtB said:

If you get the chance, check out a San Francisco ATB quarter of the so-called "circulation quality" type, not a proof. They are struck on a press originally used for proof coins, at a GREATLY reduced striking speed than at P or D, but at the same pressure. The increased time in contact with the dies "does something" to them. They are almost universally REALLY nice pieces.

I wish SF made more coins for circulation because there is definitely something special about them. Maybe the fact they are starting to do little specialties at West point is a clue that they may start doing more at SF.

Hey Duke, scratch that I said about polishing being covered on err-ref, it's not there. Ooops!

22 hours ago, Just Bob said:

This thread has been an interesting read so far, and I commend all of the participants for not allowing it to degenerate into mud slinging and name calling.

Well Bob, we have gotten to know one other and to better understand. I for one am learning to keep my high horses hooves on the ground. There is much to be taught and even more to be learned, thr more options for both the better, yeah?

2 minutes ago, VKurtB said:

Isn't that what Maxwell the Pig is playing with outside the car window in the GEICO TV ad? Wheeeeee!

Wweeeeee!!!

Lol! Imho Philly puts out the worst quality coins as far as strength or the strike. But sometimes theirs are more shiny than Denver but Denver coins have a more crisp strike. I think so anyway. Some my disagree. I hate Mint Set. I have often found circulated coins with less damage. If I can't ha e a Proof set I'll not have a set at all. Did I not link you up to error-ref.com ? I surely meant to. Just hit the link and search 'Die Polishing' and it should explain it to you. Those are other types of youtubes videos I like-the ones that show the workings inside a Mint Facility. Some day I will make it to Philly and take a tour.

As far as my 'empty' description, it is the same as your 'flat'. Sometimes I have difficulty finding my words which is why I tend to drone on trying to explain myself.

2 hours ago, Dukemnm said:

I did not know that. Thank you for that info. Makes me want to learn more about them now

Interesting tip and it makes sense. I typically look at them just to see if I find the new interesting ones and the rest I throw in a box. Once the box is full and I need to cash it out. I go through it one more time. But it makes total sense to save by year and mint location. I will resist the urge to look at my change until the box is full. Thank you for the tip. 

You're welcome. I'm glad to help when I feel like I can.

7 minutes ago, Dukemnm said:

oh... This is what @KarenHolcomb was talking about, when she mentioned the Cartwheel method perhaps? 

Yeah. You remember the little Pinwheels we got as kids? There were on a wooded stick and you'd blow on them and make them spin and when the sunshine or any light hit them they were so pretty. I guess whether the world wants us all to identify as we wish there are just some girly things that can't be denied. Lol! Ooops!

See DUKE. What Kurt. Is calling swirling is the same as my pinwheeling. Tilting the Coin in the light with bring out all its imperfection. Whenever you are self grading I suggest grading your final grade be at 2 grades down from what you think it is, that way you aren't sending one in that will disappoint you. I also hear that it is a good idea to develope a relationship with your local brick and mortar coin shop owner and he or she can also have a look see, in hand, to better help you out.

As far as learning to grade, there are classes that Kurt can likely tell you more about, but if those aren't an option PCGS has a PhotoGrade App that is far from perfect but can give you an idea of what each grade for each coin should look like. I don't use it so much anymore but I sure did a year ago, and they also put out a video series on youtube that you can watch. While I generally would not offer up a youtube solution, these are short 2 or 3 minutes each about the process that goes into grading and are not those stupid one trying to get you all excited over nothing. I will try to find a link and message it to you.

If our Host has something similar I'd love to know about it so I can share it in the future instead.

7 hours ago, Dukemnm said:

Here is a link to the 1984 P dime thread. 

 

I do both actually, I mostly look at my change. The 1972 DD Penny I have, I found in my change. 

I'll get a box once a month. and how through a few rolls once in a while. I am actually surprised how much Canadian coins I find or from the bahamas. 

I might buy a mint set or two for my collection when the price is right. 

I found the 1971 6FS in a mint set, and I actually have more of the 1971s which were cheap, and found another 1971 6FS at a higher grade. I just have to sent it in. I typically don't buy more than one set. Just what I need to add to the album. 

Ok. Did you know that Canada now longer makes a Penny?  Makes them worth keeping, imo.  Idk how long you've been looking at coins, but Chuck Daugherty gave me a great tip and it truley does put everything into a different perspective. .

He recommended that if I must go through my pocket change that I hold off until I have a bunch, preferably a whole roll, of coins in the same denomination, the same year, and the same Mint facility.  Maybe it takes too long to amass a roll so you might set it at half a roll. Anyway the idea is that you will be looking at coins that should look pretty much the same, for the most part, and so when you get used to seeing like the way the U and the R kind of squish up on the Olive Branch on certain years and Mints, when you pull one from the roll that the U and R DONT squish up on it you'll notice that right away. See what I'm saying? If you look at a bunch from the same date, mint, etc one after the other then when something is different it will jump out at you. And while you're waiting to fill your rolls you can be looking through whatever boxes of rolls you are buying.  

So that's all I got for ya, dude. I hope you will at least give it a try and that the idea works for you as he says it does for so many others. 

Ok. I agree that those are just abrasions from polishing, either of the Die or of the Coin, either way is nothing good. No Doubling. Only MD. I am not great at spotting DD'sof the letters and numbers but I know plenty about MD. This may make sense to you and apparently does to everyone but me...a DD will appear to add (oh brain fart) appear to add a kind of fullness to the character while MD takes the fullness away leaving the characters looking empty. Get it? I don't, but like I said-seems everyone else does. 

Have you looked online at other '84 P Dimes and compared them? Did I ask if you roll hunt or look only at pocket change? Very important to know the answer to that question. Otherwise I wouldn't ask it.

Oh! And how did we go from 28 coins to 80+ coins from the Title to your last comment?

Ok. Ok. Stop it, both of you. I do not own a coin shop. Nobody is rubbing anybody else. Thank you Conder for that vote of confidence. And finally, I don't feel disrespected in any way other than by you wanting 80 bucks for this lot of coins. I say that because as I stated earlier they appear to be pretty much the same coins, not the exact ones of course, that I just bagged up and buried at local playgrounds for some random kid to find back in April, and believe that I Googled every single one before I just gave them away, and none were worth much more than face value. Now maybe you have some key dates that I didn't or something, idk, but I did have remorse a couple of days after when I saw a friend bidding on a lot of Balboas, halves, wholes, Quatros, etc. You get the idea. I offered him all of mine free of charge and asked why he even wanted them. His response was because he wanted to increase his knowledge of World Coins. So, had I not already said I'd give them to him I would have them still and would be increasing my own knowledge. See? Bottom line is I do not want this lot of coins for $80 and wouldn't pay anything close to that when I can can just keep checking the shop I found and get a box full for a few bucks and not have to pay shipping. 

I'm not trying to be rude, just putting it how I see it and many folks seem to misunderstand my tone, even in print. But good luck to you and I'm sure we'll chat again sometime.  Have a great night.

Thanks again.

2 hours ago, Dukemnm said:

Thank you Karen, That clears up my confusion. So My 1984 p Dime, is just a worn out die perhaps?

 

Well, I'm not seeing your 84 Dime but there are a lot of older dimes that suffer from a worn die. They kinda get an almost mushy look to them. Not the crisp and clean strikes of a 2019. Dimes are also notorious for both being Off Center and being stamped with a MAD or Misaligned Die. You'll find that you'll see breaks and chips in all the same places also. Do you roll hunt or just looking at your change?