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Right? Seems crazy, especially since I've seen Blanchard Redfield slabs for other coins... There's still plenty of upside even if I can't convince them to attribute it... it's a really nice coin, I didn't pay a premium for the Blanchard stuff (which is pretty cool even as a stand-alone item), and this may be a VAM43 which should add a small amount to the value. I'm still gonna pursue this until I get a hard no... it's just keyboard time until then..

So a closer look revealed that the "holder" is just a flip. This matches with what Blanchard told me when I called them. The card with the "serial number", description and "grade" was in one side and the coin was in the other. I need to see if Blanchard had any sort of detailed records on these that would help tie them back together. I highly doubt it, but it doesn't hurt to ask.

The odd thing is that the holder, in this case, wasn't sealed. The shop had 2 pass through and said neither of the sleeves was sealed. I haven't taken an in-depth look at it to see if that story holds water or not... But I understand the difficulty of proving the provenance in this case which is why I'm inquiring well in advance of sending this in. And good info on the seller name not being a worthwhile addition to the slab. Was mostly curious since there are so few kicking around unlike the Paramounts...

Picked up a Redfield Hoard Morgan from a local shop. They removed the coin from the (unsealed) holder in the folio and send it to PCGS for grading. PCGS understandably didn't add the Redfield Hoard attribute. Ideally, I'd like to get this correctly attributed to the Redfield Hoard and Blanchard with the serial number on the folio holder so that they are uniquely tied. Less ideally, I'd like to just get the Redfield attribute added. It also appears to be a VAM-43, but I'm guessing trying to add that with any of the rest of the attributes would be tough / impossible... Am I smoking something or would this be possible and how would I go about making it happen? And the coin. It slabbed as a 62... just short...

Real Tet is more than 14g, so yeah.. fake... plus it looks nothing like the real deal (found that in a 37 second Google search)

Why do you prefer that to a TPG? I'm assuming you'd expect more diligence from them?

If it appears legit, won't NGC or other TPG certify it? So from that standpoint it actually *is* a simple inquiry? It seems like this isn't something you'd want to guess at..

Good information? Not sure where you're going with that... Sure... and those people are being silly... but desperation leads people to do weird things and put hope in long shots. And why do we care about their reasons? None of our business, really. All we can do is try to reset expectations. And if people post like this, there's no reason to all over it without looking at what they've got. It takes 2.5 seconds for a trained eye to determine if what the OP has is worthwhile... yeah, it gets old to answer the same question over and over, but that's what you get in this forum. If it gets to be too much, just skip those posts or take a break from the forum. If you feel it's your duty to keep people "on track" then suck it up and quit being grumpy with people you don't know and have no idea on their motivations...

@VKurtB - Kindly reread my post. I never state there is no cost. Quite the contrary... I state that the expenditure will be time. Please do not assume that you are the only one here who understands and applies the concept of opportunity cost. And also please refrain from applying your values to how people should spend that opportunity cost. Just because you don't gain any enjoyment from roll hunting does not mean you can, as a universal blanket statement, state that there's no value to it. Baseball, golf, bird watching, backgammon, romance novels, board games... there's an endless list of things that people do just for the enjoyment. Do you universally condemn those as well? Especially since there is ZERO chance of any "return" on those activities? Probably not (if you do, then there are other issues at work here). So why all over people who do this for enjoyment (or just happen to stumble across something that might be amazing)? All of this changes if someone is banking on that "holy grail" to provide a future... that'd be silly. @AkemiT - I apologize for taking this off course. I hope that what you've found turns out to be legitimately awesome. Don't let The Grump dampen your spirits on this at all. He gets testy when he thinks people are just trying to take the easy way and "get rich quick". When you have your scale, I'd suggest getting a couple of '81 or earlier (solid bronze/copper) and a couple of '83 or later (plated zinc) pennies to "calibrate" what the weight is your looking for. That will eliminate the possibility that your scale is weighing heavy (or light), just in case it's off in either direction.

Yup... only two known in the world. Do you suppose that's all that were made or that still exist? As long as you enjoy roll hunting and you're not skipping work or not spending time with your family to hunt rolls, it's a zero risk activity. Literally zero. Search through $10,000 worth of pennies and your only expenditure is time. Yup... search through $10,000 worth of pennines and you'll probably not find one. So what? If the hunt is part of the fun, then there's no down side, except our local curmudgeon will grump about it being virtually impossible and a waste of time. Every time I pick up a penny, I check to see if it's something special. Is it? nope... Am I crushed when I don't find something special? Nope.. Will that stop me from looking next time? Nope... The odds are crazy, astronomically low that you'll find one... but there's still a chance... and the level of risk in looking is exactly, precisely zero. There are few other activities that fall into that category.

Lighting is a bit harsh and last pic is way out of focus. Oh - and you don't mention what area you think is problematic for the first pic.

For just a second I thought someone had hijacked your account! Whew! Good to know all is still right(-ish) with the world...

I'm betting they won't, but if there's a jeweler you trust, they would probably be better option anyway. And post a pic here, please.

And just so you don't get any crazy ideas, don't try to get rid of scratches, shine, clean or otherwise try to "fix" any of the problems with the coin. You will only decrease the value.

Must have been an interesting variation to warrant being graded...