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Just damaged bury it, normally I say spend it but then someone else will be asking about it next week.

When did the Denver mint start making proofs?

Many people that have questions about the coins they collect or find in change are raw and, it is not a problem to post a photo of those coins here to receive information about them.

A number of things could have caused this damage, there is no way to be sure what caused the damage. What is clear is that this is post mint damage and not an error.

Congrats on the new purchase, I would recommend not submitting this coin for grading from a pure cost standpoint its really not worth it. The 1916 is a relatively common date and your new coin looks to have been struck from late state dies, I would guess it grades anywhere from AU58 to MS63 from these photos. You would need a grade of MS65 or better to make the cost of grading/slabbing viable, and I just don't see that with this coin. Get an Airtite holder to protect the coin and enjoy it just the way it is.

Life is not always a simple yes or no.

Buy some books and do some reading, then you will need to look at thousands of coins to learn how to identify counterfeits. There is no one size fits all for your question, counterfeits are and look different for each metal type and kind of U.S. coin

Welcome to the forums, usually most of the "chatting" takes place in the US/World or Newbie questions sections of the forum so you might want to check there and join in. Was there anything in particular about coins that you wanted to chat about?

The coin is clearly circulated and not mint state, VF maybe XF.

I cannot think of a way this would happen during the coining process and do not think this is a mint error, looks like the rim was worn down intentionally for some reason or another. Impossible to know why, perhaps some fellow many years ago needed a screwdriver and this became the stand-in.

Its not that the Kansas one is that different or unique really, its nothing more than a common die fill. What made it one to look for is that the right player somehow got it recognized (which it should not be really) and then had the ability to promote it for profit. I would not be surprised if at sometime in the future this gets delisted as a variety, and that would be the correct move.

Gradeflation is a very real and unfortunate aspect to todays grading room, it has brought about a new distrust of the TPG model and conspiracy theory's from some collectors.

The mint sometimes hands out blank planchets like this during the tours at the different mint sites.

In order for us to help you you need to help us with good clear in focus cropped and properly oriented photos of both sides.

Bob is a very good photographer, but those two images are not even close which begs the question which set of photographs does the coin actually look like?

Does the holder its in say anything?

Tough to say as the closeup photos are slightly out of focus, for sure not a 6 full steps maybe would be called 5 full steps, maybe.

Not full steps, not even close. The steps have to be full and unbroken all the way across, no blends and no hits that interrupt the steps. Most of the time there will be some blending under the third column or a hit that interrupts the steps. Also the FS designation will only be given to mint state coins, this coin shows clear signs of circulation.

I just see a worn quarter that has its share of circulation and damage.

It lost weight due to environmental damage, nothing more.

Lol Joe is playing tricks on you. The answer is no a coin cannot improve its technical grade as metal degrades over time, the second it leaves the press it starts that process, albeit very slowly. However with todays market grading hooey coins are very often graded higher then the technical merits because the graders are assigning prices to coins not grades. So if the coin has what the graders like the look or feel the tarnish is pretty then the grade is often (very often) bumped up a grade or two over the what the strike and surface preservation truly deserves. I see this far more often with the grading ATS than here, grade inflation has run amuck and is out of control. That of course is just my opinion as someone that thinks grading should be done on the technical merits and leave the pricing to the market.

Welcome to the forums @CoinJockey73 and @Luke Gob

In my opinion neither looks remotely original or attractive and I personally would not purchase them for any amount over their silver value.

If you received grades of PR70DCAM for all the type 2 coins then maybe you could eek out a small profit. But many of the photos show the coins to be hazy and those would need conservation before grading. My suggestion is to enjoy them as they are.