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The third one is just a normal coin that has been attacked b a corrosive substance that ate away at the surface and devices.

Your photos are far too blurry and out of focus for us to really answer your questions with complete accuracy. However from what I can make out it looks like you have an very worn cent with some minor strike doubling or die erosion, and perhaps some plating blisters. I see nothing in the photos that looks anything like an error or variety.

I agree, looks like a spot of PVC, corrosion, or some muck but not an RPM that I can see in the photos.

Some very eye appealing coins.

Your dime has severe die erosion, this happens when the die is used past its useable life. That makes the letters fatter, more mushy and in general a poorly defined look, this is common on todays coinage as the mint over uses the dies to save money. It is not an error nor is it a doubled die coin and has no value over the face value of $.10, if you doubt this you certainly can spend the $50 to send this in to find out what we have said is true.

The raw coin is a cleaned AU, very hard pass. The one in the PCGS holder looks off, there is the crack which is more of a personal thing than a concern by itself. However the label looks wrong as it should be a lite blue and in your photos it looks white, additionally there appears to be some gunk (for lack of a better word) around the edge of the holder and I'm concerned that this coin has not been properly stored and subjected to humidity, heat, water, or some combination of those. I also am not a fan of the black spots around the rim, those lower the eye appeal to most collectors. These are very common and easily found nice, I would run away from both of these, there is a reason why the slabbed one is a "bargain". Good coins are seldom cheap and cheap coins are seldom good, the old saying that you get what you pay for seems to apply to these coins.

Neat coin for several reasons, I think it would likely grade as a low MS maybe 62ish. Great family keepsake coin that would look great in one of the Capital plastic single coin holders.

A fitting piece for Dec 7th

Sorry to hear this Larry, hope you get mended up in time to go, if not then there is later in the year or next year.

We get it Joe, too many collectors do not get what they want/expect from some of these on-line bulk shops and we all understand your frustration as most of us have been there. I just want to touch on one point I may not be understanding as I reread your replies. When I read this comment you made; "They get all there stuff right from the mint." I am wondering if you are under the impression that these SMS sets are bought straight from the mint. It is true that most (although maybe not all) of the new mint issue items like this years proof sets or mint sets, or ASE's they got much of direct from the mint. However these big box stores (for lack of a better description) also get their inventory from smaller dealers all over the country. Small town dealers often buy estates that have lots of current and older mint products, those that they do not have a ready market for they sometimes do sell off to the the large on-line shops. So going back to the SMS sets like this one you bought the seller you bought from did not buy these from the mint as the mint has none to sell, these sets come from all over and some may have been messed with at some time prior to your seller receiving the set. As you pointed out the seller does not go into the back room and pick out the nicest set to send to you, it gets pulled of the shelve at random and shipped as ordered. I just wanted to be sure that you are not under the perception that the seller got this set from the mint directly as that was how I interpreted your comment. If I have misinterpreted your comment then my apologies.

Is the rev as mushy as the obv or does it look normal.

Very nice DDO! Variety Vista lists one DDO for this date proof but yours seems more pronounced and is not a match for the DDO-001 listed there. I suggest that you post it on the CONECA forum and get some other input on if this may be a new DDO. Cool find either way.

Certainly some die erosion, and its possible that the obv was subjected to some type of weak acid, say like muriatic acid used in swimming pools.

Much of what you see on those coins is from the striking of the coin at the mint, not PMD just poor quality control which is nothing new from the mint. As to the company you bought from, yes there are volume sellers who make their living selling below average material through mail order or via websites. Often as Woods suggested using a stock photo of a really nice example, these are places to avoid.

QA this was not bought raw, it is in an old small white ANACS holder. I like buying my copper in the older holders when I can as that shows me that the color and surfaces are stable and unlikely to change with proper storage. I did purchase the coin biased only photos (no in hand look) with an agreement with the seller for return options once in hand. There has been significant discussion on blue toned copper, both IHC's and Lincolns but also extending back to early 1800's coins too. Many in the hobby feel that any blue toned piece has been subjected to a chemical agent or two to create the color. I have done this myself in order to see the results in hand, and they can be quite beautiful. However there are some subtle differences between the lab created color and that which is natural, however I will say that all of the major TPGs have lab created blue toned copper in their holders this I know for a fact. So for now at least while the debate goes on about the legitimacy of blue toned copper the TPGs have made their choice and have chosen to accept blue (and purple) toned copper as legit and market acceptable. Just how and what is needed to produce a blue color I do not divulge on chat rooms as that information would be used to ruin coins as the want to be coin doctors would use that information to produce more for the market. We already have to much information on how to artificially or rapidly produce toning that is now deemed as market acceptable out there and it is being used to flood the market with a significant volume of enhanced coins.

My weekly add to the thread. I purchased this from a PCGS forum member on that boards marketplace section earlier in 2021, but Mark Goodman just shot these photos for me. Great color that really glows when the light hits it just right. A very nice coin and exceptional images by Mark.

Yesterday I received my invitation from NGC to attend the members only event at the upcoming Jan FUN show. I wish it was economically feasible to attend that show and this event but sadly it is not given the costs to fly across country, lodging, and food. Hope that some of you are able to attend the show and this event.

Neither for me. The costs to fly across country coupled with the hotel and food costs would leave nothing to spend on coins so no point in going for me.

Well said Hog, I applaud your mindset X 1,000.

It is a tough question to answer as there are many variables. Participating on the TPG forums, registries, may give you a distorted view of the hobby as those activities are populated by many of the mega rich collectors and dealers. That is not to imply that every forum member is rich, many are not. Even the very large shows are more for the dealer to dealer transactions and feeding the whales than for most collectors. If you go to a smaller more regional or local show and/or participate in a coin club you would see more of the broader base of collectors and dealers, those that are filling holes in albums with AG-BU raw type of coins. That average collector still provides the base of the hobby currently and is very important to the health of the overall market. But I think we have seen a transition to where now the average collector is also one that now also buys slabbed coins in the AU to MS63/64 range who may or may not participate in a registry but not have any asperations of a top level set. In my own collecting interest of Lincolns a collector can put together an impressive slabbed set (be it date only or full date/mm) of MS65 or MS66 memorial coins for very little money on a per coin basis. But that set would not be very high ranking in the registry context even though it may be a very beautiful set. How others view our collections is certainly shaped by their perceptions and views, I do not consider my collection above average but there may be a few that do.

Tough call, I like the coin and would enjoy owning it at a slightly lower price point than it is currently being offered at. However it is being offered very close to the PCGS price guide and the price in that guide has been moving up. The pictures from the 2019 auction of this coin when last auctioned give a little different view and perspective of the coin vs these photos. In Sep 2020 there was a CAC beaned example that was auctioned off by Goldberg which hammered for just under $1K. And then just this past April an NGC CAC example (EAC AU55) sold for over $4K, so there is a pretty wide spread in prices for the better quality pieces. Do I think there are better examples at the AU58 grade level yes; but the question is when will they be available, at what cost, and are you prepared to wait.

I think the surfaces are slightly granular with minimal porosity, very tough to find copper of this type and timeframe that will be totally free of either of these. Judging from these photos only the TPG grade looks a touch optimistic to me but in line with todays market grading philosophy. Overall a very attractive coin and depending on the price it could be a very nice addition to a collection of early copper.

No one can say for sure, I have seen one estimate that claimed a survival of 250,000. But that is just an educated guess, these are not rare by any measure as NGC has close to 15,000 in its pop report and PCGS shows over 20,000 in its pop report.

I see nothing out of the ordinary on a quick glance. Perhaps if you were to be more specific as to what you are seeing.