Coinbuf

What is your motivation for wanting these graded? There are many good reasons for having coins slabbed including planning to sell, need for a registry set, and think they will be better protected. But there are also just as many good reasons not to have coins graded and slabbed.

Actually, that is not true, NGC will remedy some issues for free, I currently have one coin at NGC to be fixed free of charge as the label is a mechanical error. I was not the original submitter of the coin.

Welcome to the forum Bill, like TJ I suggest that you post some photos (clear in focus photos please) of these "interesting" coins you have as a newcomer to the world of coin collecting. We always enjoy looking at coins, well almost always, also in the future you will get more interaction if you post in the US coin or newbie section of the forum not here in the registry section. This section is for questions about the registry and registry sets. Having coins graded is expensive so it would be smart of you to be sure that the coins you send in are valuable enough or the coins will have enough value added to cover the costs of grading and slabbing, not every coin is a good candidate for grading/slabbing. With good photos we can give you some initial guidance and you may want to follow that up with a consultation with an NGC authorized dealer in your area.

Attractive 37-D, good luck with the sales.

Just plain old garbage.

Will cost more than any value would be gained from having these graded.

I would not advise spending the money to have either of these graded, both are at best mid AU and from the photos both look to have been wiped/cleaned in the past and I would not be surprised if both came back as details grades. Only if these are rare or highly desirable VAM's could it be worth it, I do not collect VAM's so I did not check. However your coins and your money so your choice to have graded or not.

I think it may have been a planchet flaw perhaps a lamination that fell off before striking. I say before the coin was struck as that area goes under the star yet the star is unaffected by whatever is going on. It could also just be a stain, difficult to say from photos, as you have the coin in hand can you tell if there is a height difference between the fields and that area, By that I mean does the metal look to have a step up/down where the two meet. As for getting it below grading cost, the holder, grade, and series have a lot to do with that.

Looks like you both had an awesome time and that is the best part of this journey you are now both on.

Anything is possible to a true believer.

I believe it is a struck counterfeit, but I am far from an expert on this. The "2"'s are wrong but so is the "one" on the rev and some parts of the rays which seem to be a known look for a modern counterfeit.

Keeping in mind that when I have been flying the planes I have it has been under perfect weather conditions, and under those conditions flying is not really all that difficult. Much like driving a car you look to the horizon to keep yourself flying straight and level just glancing at the gages every now and then, it really is very cathartic for me. Now the takeoff and landing are the difficult parts, both of those can be nerve racking even in the best of weather. I guess I just really love to be in the air; flying, hot air balloon, sky diving, and repelling are all a blast.

I do not have a pilot's license, something I also have wanted to do, but I have flown both fixed wing and rotor. My brother in law owns a Cessna 172 which I have been behind the controls of as well as his friends 152. One of the local reginal airports has a helicopter flight school and many years ago they had a special fathers day course, an hour of class and an hour of actual flying with a certified instructor. Likely a promo that they hoped would bring in a few more students, I do not know if that was the case or not but I thoroughly enjoyed my time behind the stick and pedals of that little Robinson R22 helicopter. Other than the takeoffs and landings, which I'm not qualified to perform, I have spent well over 20 hours behind the controls; it is an incredibly calming and amazing experience for me, well slightly less calming in the helicopter as those take a lot more attention to fly level and straight. I also enjoy flying in a commercial jet, but I sure do feel you when it comes to all the lines, waiting and general bs that you have to go through prior to the actual flight. I felt like going postal the last time my wife and I went to Denver to visit our youngest daughter, it was a much better experience years ago than it is today and the covid protocols just make it that much more of a pain.

Waste of money to have it graded, but your money and your choice. The op has also posted this coin on the PCGS forum and the consensus there is that this coin is a counterfeit.

Very close nasty little buggers those scorpions are.

I love to fly, when I'm at the controls that is.

The number in front of the cert# is the PCGS catalogue or database number that identifies this as the 79 rev, the 78 rev has a different number. I agree that it would be nice if that information would be displayed on the cert verification page.

The 1880-CC was minted with two reverses, and thus two slots in the registry, a reverse of 1878 and a reverse of 1879. You have the 1879 so it was placed into the correct slot by the autobuild feature.

My best guess on value with the info so far is $300 to $400, I have seen higher values for some of the 1859-O halves depending on quality or any variety. Just my opinion I would look for a better example as I do not like that heavy dig under the eagle's right wing, and the scratches across the shield and under the MM. But that is just my opinion and those may not bother anyone else at all.

All the labels I have seen in the past have had the letter on it, does it not look like this? Note the B in Parenthesis after the shipreck effect portion of the label

Well the coin market is seldom inflated by a "couple" of guys, PM's yes sometimes. Second it would help if you can provide the letter that NGC gave this specific coin, NGC used a letter (A,B,C) to describe the level of damage done by the sea water. A designated coins had the least damage and therefore are more desired and will likely cost more.

Agree with what has been said, high chance of a counterfeit, if you can post clear in focus photos of each side it should be easy to determine.

Welcome to the forum, you do not have a plating error 100% guaranteed on that. How exactly the coin became damaged is known only by the person that created the damage. Do you have photos or links to those coins you saw that led you to beleive this could be a plating issue?

The data can be made available going forward on sales from retail sites and auction houses, all the government has to do is decide that they want it and they can get it. How many times have you read about a family that lost a home or business to eminent domain, the government has the power to do as it wants with no regard for your feelings about it all under the umbrella of "for the greater good". Heck even insurance records could be used to see what assets people are insuring, and bank records can be accessed to see the inflow of monies. Also with the new 1099 reporting that went into effect earlier this year your ability to sell and convert assets to cash is easier to track. So while you might be able to hide it for now over time assets will be uncovered as they are sold and if those assets can be traced back to you, you (or your heirs) then might be on the hook for fines and interest. I agree that it seems a very daunting and unwieldy task, but as we keep moving into a world with more digital tracking of your actions it just gets easier and easier to follow each persons movements.

Ahh yes our dust devils, like mini tornados of a sort. Those are nothing compared to the Haboos we get during the monsoon season, here is a photo that was taken a few years ago as a large Haboo moved into the Phoenix area, massive dust storms that cut visibility to just a few feet sometimes.