Just Bob

Happy Birthday!

Welcome to the forum. Bobby is right. They are copper art bars, containing one ounce of copper each. The retail value is about $5 for nice art bars, and $2 - $3 for copper rounds and generic bars. A dealer might offer you a dollar a piece.

Those sets were produced by the National Collectors Mint, a private company that produces limited edition "collectibles" that may or may not appreciate in value. This mintage was limited to 1009 sets, I believe. The "coins" are silver, except for the cent copy, which is copper. Interestingly, the COAs are signed by Barry Goldwater, Jr., former representative from California, and son of former Senator and presidential candidate Barry Goldwater, Sr.

The seller needs to be outed loudly and forcefully. If you don't want to do it, post their name or a link here. I will be happy to let everyone know who is selling counterfeits. By the way, them selling these coins to you is against the law, if they are located in the US. I am not sure how our Hobby Protection Act applies to sellers located outside the country.

Welcome to the forum. The 1957 set appears to be proof coins which have been removed from their original government packaging, and put into an aftermarket holder. This is the type of holder that RWB was referring to, which can be bought from coin supply houses. Can you show reverse pictures of the two tribute sets? Are those pieces the same size as normal coins? Do they have "COPY" stamped on the reverse?

I am still wondering: what was the reason you did not send the coin back to the seller and have them refund your money?

They are Chinese fakes. You can buy them for $1.70 plus shipping.

Do your coins look like this? (Without the word "COPY"?)

It is just a mark that resembles a "D," as far as I can tell from the pictures.

I can honestly say that this is the first time I have ever seen an advertisement for buffalo and longhorn semen. And I saw it on a coin chat board.

Good info, Mike. Researching the towns, businesses, and people involved is one of the things that makes token collecting so interesting.

Big, heavy silver dollars, stored in bags that were moved around from place to place, constantly rubbing and scraping against other coins in the bag, tend to get more scratches and dings than smaller coins. This is just my opinion, but I think Morgans are treated differently in the grading room, because of their size, weight, and the circumstances in which they were stored. I feel the same way about double eagles. Like I said, just my opinion.

It is a joke squirting nickel. There is a tiny hole in the middle of the "O" in the word "OF." Press in on the metal part, hold the coin under water, and release. It will draw water into the chamber. Then tell someone, "look at this hole in this coin," or something similar. When they put their face close to it to see the hole, give it a squeeze, and water will squirt out in their face.

I tried to do a business search on the Michigan SOS website, and the Genesee County website, but came up empty handed. All I could find was a listing of current businesses on the License and Regs site.

Looks like they made at least three different types. http://tokencatalog.com/display_records.php?SearchString=davison&SubmitFilter=Search&SearchStringEveryWord=&SearchStringAnyWord=&ImagedOnlyOption=&action=DisplayRecords

Can I play? I'll just post a few. The first one is from the Gulf Coast. The second is from Hattiesburg. The last three are from Jackson.

That should sell a few copies.

Cool find!

There appears to be enough hair and leaf detail to get a VG details grade, despite the rim/denticle weakness. With the damage, I would price it in the low AG range - probably $45 - $50.

If the coin is coined "medal turn'" would not the front sail ("headsail" or "jib") be opposite the fish, rather than the rear sail ("mainsail")?

On August 3rd, 1938, Mssrs. H.J.Wilson, D.A. Graves, and H.H Parker filed a record of charter to form the Copiah County Building & Development Co. in Hazlehurst, MS. Its stated purpose was to, among other things, " buy, own, lease, and operate lumber yards," "buy, sell, and exchange wares and goods," and to "buy, own, sell, and lease timber and timber lands." On March 23, 1943, an amendment to the charter was filed, changing the name to Graves, Inc. In addition to the $0.25, $0.50, and $1.00 tokens shown, a $0.05 token was also issued.

I should have worded my response differently, evidently. I did not mean to imply that I thought the OP's coin was a special mint set coin. I just meant that, because of the date, it could not be a proof coin.

I concur. The surfaces look manipulated. As far as the grade, lower XF details looks about right

In this case, it has to be a Special Mint Set coin, as there were no proofs made in 1965, 66, or 67.

Photograde considers 8 a VG. I think that is where your coin sits.