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On 6/28/2023 at 10:47 AM, braddick said:
Is it possible NGC will negate additional points already registered on CAC NGC/PCGS coins in the future?
In my opinion, they should. In fact, I don't think they should have ever awarded additional points for CAC coins in the first place. That was tantamount to admitting that their grading was not "up to par."
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It looks like FS-302 1882/1882, but since you only show the last digit, it is impossible to know for sure. I suggest posting in the US Coins or Newbie section, with clear, cropped pictures of both sides of the coin, and a closer picture of the complete date and the IN GOD WE TRUST motto.
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The doubling around the date is a form of deteriorated die doubling that is common to cents minted after 1982. It is more poor quality control than anything else, and adds no numismatic value to the coin. The split in the coating is called Split-plate doubling (imagine that!) and is also the result of the post-1982 cents being made of copper plated zinc. Your coin is worth one cent, so would not be a good candidate for grading.
Welcome to the forum.
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On 6/29/2023 at 10:48 AM, LINCOLNMAN said:
Agree, would be details if it weren't an early copper. No disparagement intended, I like the coin.
Ditto. I would add that coin to my collection without hesitation.
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I would call it AG, but PCGS probably graded it Good.
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Welcome to the forum. I assume the error you are hoping to find is the quarter struck on planchet stock that was intended for the Sacagawea dollar. There were supposedly some of these struck that "escaped" the mint. You will need to have your coin weighed on accurate scales that weigh to at least three decimal places. A normal quarter should weigh between 5.443 and 5.897 grams, with the average being 5.670 grams. A quarter struck on the "experimental" planchet would weigh between 5.9 and 6.3 grams, and would probably be slightly thicker than a normal quarter.
Your coin looks like an environmentally damaged piece. I would not get my hopes up.
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On 6/28/2023 at 10:45 AM, Henri Charriere said:
I am guessing the reverse reads: GOOD FOR, 25 [Cent symbol) -- IN -- MECHANDISE.
The obverse is unintelligible-- and riddled with raised dots. Using your other tokens as a guide, what should it read, especially in the middle? What is the county or closest town today?
The token was likely found in the ground, and the raised dots are the result of corrosion. You got the reverse correct: GOOD FOR / 25¢ / IN MERCHANDISE The obverse reads: CYBUR / STORES / COMPANY
The community of Cybur is in Pearl River County, to the northwest of Picayune.
I did not put periods at the end of the two sentences above because there are sometimes varieties that have (or do not have) commas, periods, apostrophes, etc. It is important when writing the description to copy it exactly to avoid confusion. I have actually discovered a "no period" variety, but it isn't a big deal to anyone - not even to me.
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In May, 1916, CW Zimmerman, CJ Coppock, and PC Moore formed a corporation in Mobile, Alabama to operate general stores, and in June of that year, filed with the state of Mississippi to open a store in the town of Cybur. The store operated until 1923.
Tokens were issued in denominations of 5 and 10 cents, according to the Mississippi token book. Those are also the only denominations listed on Tokencatalog.com. This 25 cent token is unlisted in either reference. It may be unique.
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Welcome to the forum. You are correct in referring to error hunting as a "needle in a haystack." Contrary to what the producers of Youtube videos would have you believe, finding valuable errors in pocket change or roll hunting is next to impossible. The ones that you do find are usually so minor as to be worth almost no premium. The reason for this is that the prominent errors, such as broadstruck, double-struck, wrong planchet, or off-center coins, that actually do manage to make it out of the mint are rejected by the coin counting and rolling machines that are used by Loomis and other companies that roll/transport/disperse coins. Well-known error dealers have agreements with these companies to obtain these errors, and that is why you see the best ones in a relative few dealer inventories.
This is not to discourage you from looking, but you should definitely temper your expectations and not expect to find anything valuable.
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Post removed. Jim did not ask for members to post other examples, so my post was technically a hijack. Sorry.
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On 6/24/2023 at 5:53 PM, Henri Charriere said:
[What he wrote: "However, I like you,"
What he meant: "However, I, like you,"]
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The opinion of the chemists notwithstanding, it is possible for lower quality olive oils to have higher levels of acidity than the premium stuff. Fatty acids are produced when the fat triglycerides in the oil react with oxygen and water. This can occur when the oil breaks down, or is made with damaged fruit. Premium extra virgin oil can have acidity levels as low as 0.2%, while others can reach 0.8%. Regular virgin olive oil can have acidity levels as high as 2%. The higher the acid level, the more active the oil, in my opinion. However, I, like you, only have experience to go on. I have no background in chemistry.
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On 6/24/2023 at 7:38 AM, Jason Abshier said:
I have a weird unique Rosevelt dime on the bust his face has Green stripe and blackish tone under it looks like he painted military face paint on himself … I have a Lincoln cent I found wedged in a couch once sitting up against yellow foam cushion for years it turned Lincoln’s hairdo bright yellow/purple like he got his hair dyed by Dennis Rodman …
You can't post something like this and not show pictures.
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Nice results, although I had to think a bit before realizing that EVOO was Extra Virgin Olive Oil (JPM's post was definitely a good clue
). I think the color looks natural enough that no one would consider it "cleaned." Did you use a rose thorn or anything else to remove the crud, or just rinse?
I have also had good results with olive oil, however, I did learn that you should only do one piece at a time.
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What you are seeing is the result of the obverse and reverse dies coming together without a planchet between them. Part of the obverse image, in this case the lower part of Liberty's hair and cap, was pressed into the reverse die. These are known as "die clashes", and are actually pretty common, especially on smaller coins such as three cent pieces. Here is an overlay from Maddieclashes.com that shows what I am talking about:
Edited to add: there are several 1898-O examples with clashed reverses, but that far-right tilted "O" should make this one pretty easy to attribute.
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I collect Mississippi tokens and other exonumia because they are a direct link to the history and culture of my home state. I enjoy researching the towns and businesses represented, and I like to visit the areas where now-extinct towns once were. It's fun to imagine what the town may have looked like in its heyday, and to see what, if anything, remains. It's also nice when there is a direct connection, such as finding a token from my hometown, or from where my parents were raised.
Additionally, I enjoy being able to own collectibles that are actually rare without having to pay an arm and a leg for them. Quite a few of the tokens I own are one of only a handful - sometimes only two or three - of pieces known to exist. I can get the feeling of exclusivity without the high cost.
The hunt is also a big part of why I enjoy tokens. Searching antique stores, flea markets, and coin dealer bargain bins can sometimes turn up interesting finds, and usually at prices that won't break the bank. Finally finding that last token to complete a set gives a feeling of accomplishment and completion.
I collect other US and world coins, but tokens are my main interest, and what I focus most of my energy on.
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On 6/22/2023 at 7:44 PM, powermad5000 said:
I think that circular mark comes from a coin counting/separating machine like the self dump machine in a bank or a Coinstar machine.
Or possibly from a coin rolling machine of the type that crimps the roll on the end, leaving part of the coin exposed.
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On 6/22/2023 at 9:12 PM, powermad5000 said:
I just got one of mine back from NGC that I submitted as an error because on the reverse, S OF A in UNITED STATES OF AMERICA was basically nearly unreadable and I thought it would get an error designation for being struck through grease, but it came back straight graded.
Was this a pre-1984 cent?
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On 6/22/2023 at 12:45 PM, ldhair said:
Pretty coin.
Yes, it is. And, she even has a thumb.
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On 6/21/2023 at 5:36 PM, jesbroken said:
Oops wrong coin, not a token. My bad. Here's my 1803 Kettle Token.
Jim
Hey, Jim. Nice to see you posting on this side of the street.
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On 6/21/2023 at 1:59 PM, EarlyUS.com said:
One of THE rarest coins or tokens that I have ever owned ....
For those who don't know, this is Civil War Token Mo 400A-1a, which is listed as R7 (10-19 known.)
Additionally, the Peacemaker token above is Civil War Patriotic token 171/428. It is also listed as R7.
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For the sake of accuracy, it should be pointed out that there is an error in the above graphic. "Deteriorated die doubling" and "strike doubling" are not the same thing. The former is caused by eroded dies. The latter is caused by movement of either the die or the planchet during the striking process.
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Did they offer you a job?
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). I think the color looks natural enough that no one would consider it "cleaned." Did you use a rose thorn or anything else to remove the crud, or just rinse?
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You're right. PCGS is guilty of the same thing. I'm not arguing against CAC coins being worth a premium in the marketplace. I just don't think that should have translated to additional registry points, and I don't think that either grading service should have gone down that particular rabbit hole. It was a lose/lose situation from the beginning, in my opinion.
I don't have a registry set with either service, so I don't have a dog in this hunt. I am just offering an outsider's opinion.