Just Bob

On 8/11/2023 at 12:25 PM, TheArtofHorror said:

Thank you for this information. I am new to the board and was just excited to find a thread on what I was searching for. I will post new topics for any future questions. Thank you.

Don't worry about it. You haven't committed any breach of etiquette or any other kind of posting faux pas. This is one of several threads concerning Continental currency, and lots of posters have used it to show their examples, which, unfortunately have all been fakes. I imagine that previous posters found this thread while searching for information on their pieces, just as you did.  You adding one more post to the thread does absolutely no harm. As my kids say, "It's all good."

Welcome to the forum.

On 8/10/2023 at 10:52 AM, EagleRJO said:

I am starting to wounder if in addition to being over-dipped that this coin may be a counterfeit, and perhaps it was intentionally over-dipped to hide things.  It has a Reverse of 78 since the top clutched arrow feather is flat, which means it would need to be either a VAM-4 or VAM-7/VAM-7A since those are the only ones listed with that reverse.

http://www.vamworld.com/wiki/1880-CC_Reverses

However, the mint mark doesn't match either one, and the VAM-7 also isn't a match since there is no mark below the second "8" in the date.  In addition, the date position doesn't match either the VAM-4 or VAM-7.

Is it possible that VAMworld doesn't list every existing die pair?

On 8/9/2023 at 12:52 AM, JKK said:

Be that as it may, I can attest to the fact that Mississippi pear butter is excellent on cornbread. Thanks again. And for the record, I'm not sure how it would be possible to put too many cloves in it. Cloves = deliciousness.

I am glad you enjoy it. I usually make apple butter every year, but I had a lot of pears, so I thought I would give it a try. (I tried pear chutney, too, but it got mixed reviews.) Unfortunately, I won't be making any this year, due to a late hard freeze that lasted several days. Killed all of my plums, wiped out the blossoms on my pears and blueberries, damaged my figs and peaches. No huckleberries, either. I am hoping to gather enough wild elderberries to make some jelly, though. It takes a half gallon of fruit to make a batch, so I will have to visit several patches. I need to make some more pepper relish, too. I am almost out. If I do, I will be sure to bring some on my next trip out your way. 

By the way, there is a coin I would like to get your advice on, if you don't mind. I will shoot you a PM soon and give you the story on it.

On 8/9/2023 at 12:48 AM, smashan8 said:

Yeah I just thought it was interesting to see. Is it okay to share images and findings as such? Or should posts only be for questions? 

Feel free to post images of any coin about which you may have questions or that you find interesting. We always like to look at pictures of coins, especially if they are clear and cropped as yours are.

On 8/8/2023 at 11:20 PM, Tony Follis said:

Good riddance to bad news.

Don't be surprised if you see him come back and post under a different name. I don't think this was the first time he has been kicked off this forum. 

On 8/7/2023 at 6:46 PM, Hoghead515 said:

. Has anyone ever seen a coin you knew nothing about and bought it anyways?

 

Absolutely. More than once, I have searched through a world coin junk box and bought a handful of coins just because I liked the way they looked. I actually have a bid in for a set of coins on Ebay that I know very little about, and I am looking at a few more. I just like the designs, and the prices are well within my budget. 

The language on your coin is Latin. I could give you all the info, but I know you are the type who likes to research stuff for yourself, so I will give you a link to get you headed in the right direction.

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces38901.html

On 8/7/2023 at 9:13 PM, JKK said:

Fine, thanks, not as hot today as recently. How's the summer in Hattiesburg?

Upper 90s and low 100s. Humid and hot, as usual. I'm not looking forward to this month's power bill.

Rim dings notwithstanding, I would say VF-XF, although I am not sure about the weak mint mark.

@JKK

How is the weather in Beaverton?

On 8/6/2023 at 7:01 PM, Dave HH said:

1 of 1, Heritage, Spink, Ebay, and Stack Bowers Have NONE...

Since you say, well there are so many PROVE IT

Who said that there were "so many"? It just have been deleted, because I don't see that posted here by anyone.

On 8/5/2023 at 3:42 PM, Stackerdude21 said:

Explain the below. 

Simple. NGC has not updated their evaluation of these coins, so the price graph remains the same. When/if they update the price in their system, the line will either go up or down. If they change it to reflect actual prices realized, it will surely go down, and by a large amount. 

I realize that you would like to be able to look at that price and say that your coins are worth $250 each. But, in the real world, a coin is only worth what a buyer is willing to pay. The amount on a computer screen means absolutely nothing if no one is willing to pay that amount. Maybe one day the price of these will go up, and you can actually say that your coins are really worth $250. But right now, in the real world where people are actually buying and selling these coins, they are worth under $100. That's just the plain and simple truth. No amount of wishful thinking is going to change that. Sorry.

On 8/5/2023 at 6:28 AM, J P M said:

... I was under the impression that the 2021 coins were going to be a once in a lifetime deal. ( Silly Me ) Here we are in 2023 and they are still being sold ? ...

My understanding is that this was the original intent when Uram and others presented the idea to Congress, but there was so much competition in the commemorative coin arena that the measure did not pass. So, they tried a different angle: a yearly issue, like the silver and gold eagles.

Take a look at this census page for Lincoln Memorial cents. Notice how many are graded below MS60. My guess is that many of these, and a lot of the mint state examples, were sent in by people who were sure that they had a doubled die or some other variety.

https://www.ngccoin.com/census/united-states/cents/100/

On 8/3/2023 at 9:41 PM, Stackerdude21 said:

 

I bought an E.P. 70 ASE last week for $50.00 and it is listed at $250+.  I did that 4 times. 

Now, you guys TELL me, who got the greatest return on his cash??

 

That question will only be answered when you sell the 4 coins. List price means nothing if you can't get anyone to pay that amount for your coins.

On 8/3/2023 at 9:37 AM, meaggiimoo said:

All of you ‘gentlemen’ are funny. Yes it has taken over 5 years to sort through our grandfathers 1000s upon 1000s of coins, stamps, clocks and other collectibles. As people who do not collect coins nor know how to price and don’t have the money to spend on getting everything graded (as some of you have suggested), we do not know everything, hence coming here to ask for you OPINIONS. My sister has been selling coins on her Etsy for 5 years at prices she has thought was fair market value. Up until I (Meagan) joined this forum to do more research, this was all the info we had. So sorry (not sorry) if you all think the prices are too high. That is why we are HERE to ask you guys for opinions and prices on what you would suggest they go for. Unfortunately you guys aren’t very nice or helpful, and instead of providing some helpful information, you bash us and claim we are lying or trying to get traffic to our website. Yes we would like to sell these coins since we have been sitting on them for far too long, but we are not liars or trying to grift people. We also sell on EBay but did not provide the link and will NOT be providing the link as we find you to be rude and don’t want to sell to people who can’t be helpful with information. 

I assumed you were Ashley, so that was a mistake on my part. Sorry, Meagan.

Go back and look at your first post. You said, "Getting ready to sort through some boxes of coins that my grandfather collected." You posted a picture of unopened boxes of what appears to be mint and proof sets. The clear implication is that you had just gotten these coins and had not gone through them yet. No mention of the fact that you had already been selling them for five years. Since none of us are mind readers, this sets the tone for every response that follows. At this point, we all think that you are looking for an education, and not for assistance in your ongoing sales venture. You asked for "insight," which could mean anything from the history of the coins, to the mintage figures, to an opinion on the appearance of the coins. You did not specifically ask for assistance in pricing, so how are members supposed to know this is what you were looking for?

In your second post you stated that some coins were being listed on Etsy (Instant red flag in the mind of every member, although you did not know this) then said, "Just wanted to share some others I have not listed."  Again, no request for assistance in pricing. But your third posts says, "That is why we are HERE to ask you guys for opinions and prices on what you would suggest they go for." How are we supposed to assist with pricing if you don't ask for that assistance? We aren't usually in the habit of telling sellers what they should charge unless asked.

Another quote: "...don’t have the money to spend on getting everything graded (as some of you have suggested),..."  This statement is not true. Please show us where any member suggested you have any of your coins graded. Because Sandon thought, as did all of us, that you had just received this large collection, he suggested you have them appraised by a local dealer or another party experienced in coin appraisal. That is not the same as sending them off to have them graded. No one else even mentioned grading or appraisal.

The claim that you have been selling coins for five years, but don't know how to price them does not hold water, especially if you sell on Ebay. A quick look at "Sold" listings would have given you all the information required to properly price your coins. And, as mentioned by others, there are numerous books and online resources to offer guidance, as well. Five years is a very long time to wander around in the dark.

Some of the most honest, genuine, and generous people I have ever met are members of this forum, but we really hate to see people being taken advantage of. As I said in my earlier post, it is your right to charge whatever you feel comfortable charging, but you shouldn't expect dedicated collectors you assist you in gouging people.

Picture clarification, courtesy of Variety Vista and Variety Plus. The first two pics are of the '79 Type1, then the next two are the '79 Type2, which is the same punch that was used in 1980, and is also the 1981 Type1. The last two pics are the '81 Type2. The difference between the '81 types one and two are difficult to see in these pictures, especially the flat surface of the type2. The difference in the shape of the lower "tail" is noticeable, though.

I am of the opinion that this is not a genuine Morgan.

On 8/1/2023 at 5:28 AM, Fenntucky Mike said:

I've posted some of these before but I'm posting them again because I've found the last token needed to complete the full set of 8 as listed by Atwood & Coffee. 

The last variety I needed to complete the set was "P", unfortunately I wasn't able to find a better example but these were a lot more difficult to find than I was expecting. I'm currently working on a display and will pick up better examples if I come across any. 

 

Congratulations! It's always a good feeling when you can find that last piece that you need to complete the set.

Clear, cropped pictures, oriented correctly, would have been a great help, along with weight in grams and diameter in millimeters. But I think I found your coin anyway. Try this link: http://www.wildwinds.com/coins/sear5/s1427.html#RSC_0047

MS60