Just Bob

I agree with VF

The certificate is signed by the president of "Grumpy, Inc." Interesting name for a coin dealer, to be sure.

On 9/11/2023 at 6:45 AM, Oldbeggar said:

Hello again, I send the coin to be graded and it came back today. I must say that I'm quite happy.

Congratulations! I'm glad I was wrong about it being damaged.

About the Blakesley effect: it really doesn't matter the reason a section of the planchet is missing. The effect is caused by uneven pressure when the blank is run through the upsetting  mill. But - and here is where my brain slipped a cog - this coin never went through that process. I should have given my answer a lot more thought before I responded.

This thread has also reminded me that I need to do a lot more studying on 18th &19th century US and world coin manufacturing processes. Thank you for posting.

On 9/10/2023 at 7:17 AM, erwindoc said:

Are these coins allowed to be added to World Coin registry sets?  In the past they were not allowed to be used. Any changes to the policy or not?

Not yet, I am afraid.

And, you need to post a larger picture of your avatar coin (and your '47-S and your '62.) That blue is very pretty.

On 9/10/2023 at 10:27 AM, cpfirme3 said:

I see, so if I order the VarietyPlus service, when it comes time for grading, if the grader determins there is NO variety, I am still charged $18 for the VarietyPlus service?

Whether or not your coin is a variety is not determined by the coin grader. It is my understanding that the coin is sent to a separate person for variety identification. (That person would have been the renowned expert David Lange, before his recent untimely passing.) As Coinbuf stated in another post, you are paying to have this variety expert look at and evaluate your coin, which is a totally different operation than grading. $18 is really a small price to pay an expert for their opinion, even if you aren't happy with the outcome.

Ouch! Somebody abused that poor coin terribly! 

On 9/1/2023 at 2:36 PM, Newenglandrarities said:

You have asked a couple times on two major forums with a bunch of experts answering you “where”.  The damage is a hit to the number 2 in the date, that is where.  There really is no way to misunderstand where we are talking about.  The 2 in the date took damage after it was struck somewhere/sometime while it was in circulation.  This is NOT an error coin!  Unfortunately the assessment of value by everyone else is correct as well, it is worth maybe 10 cents retail.  Again, wish we all had better news for you.  

Based on your response here and ATS, you apparently have a lot of patience with these type posters. I applaud you.

On 8/31/2023 at 12:41 PM, Chris Mikesh said:

Hi All,

From all I've read, the 1967 (P) Kennedy should be 40% silver clad with a copper interior.  

This, apparently, is what caused your confusion. This information is off a bit. As stated above, the inner layer was 79/21 copper/ silver. (Actually, .791/.209) That is why you see only a slight yellowish band, instead of a copper colored one. 

Have fun playing with your pile of silver! 

Welcome to the forum. Thank you for posting nice, cropped, close-ups of both sides of your coin. Unfortunately, as others have stated, it is not a mint error. It is just damage. A die break would show as a raised line or area on the coin, which would have been created by a crack or missing metal on the face of the die. A break close to the rim, called a "marginal die break" or "cud," would look much like the area on the obverse of your coin at the "D" on "DOLLAR." It would not, however, have the gash in the edge, which is what caused your coin to look like that. The pics below are compliments of Chuck Newman, from the website Cuds-on-Coins. Notice that the edge looks more or less normal, without evidence of damage.

On 8/28/2023 at 6:40 PM, Modwriter said:

I was joking with @Hoghead515...Not too long after that, I got clean and sober. 

Congratulations! Very well done! I thought I detected a different attitude in your posting.

On 8/25/2023 at 2:22 AM, EagleRJO said:

I think they are interchangeable, and bolls is what the ANA grading standard refers to them as, but most everyone else including the TPG's and VAM World refer to them as blossoms so I usually go with that.

VAM World - Anatomy of the Morgan Dollar

 

That looks nothing like a cotton blossom. Truth be told, it doesn't look very much like a boll, either. I'm not sure what Mr. Morgan was looking at when he designed this.

I have a feeling he is asking 1000 rupees, which is $12.04 in today's dollars. Way too much for the coin, but not something to get worked up about, in my opinion.

VG

On 8/14/2023 at 2:44 PM, Coinbuf said:

I will put forth another possible scenario which is a late-stage die cap.   I too am wondering about the shiny look of the coin and the possibility of someone that tried to spiff it up in the past.

If you are saying that you think this coin was struck through a late stage die cap, then I would agree that you are probably on the right track, although I am not sure what would cause the "wrinkled" looking parts. It definitely looks struck through something.

On 8/17/2023 at 5:56 PM, bstrauss3 said:

I was only able to attend for about a day and a quarter as I had to return home for a medical emergency. She's fine - wasn't a stroke, it was a slipped disk.

 

 

I assume you are referring to your wife. I am very glad she did not suffer a stroke. A slipped disk is bad enough, but a stroke can be devastating.

Providing diameter in millimeters, and weight in grams will be helpful.

On 8/13/2023 at 10:40 PM, Hammersred said:

BOB! My favorite! 

The reeding is super inconsistent and nearly non existent and smooth around the 'error'

Any chance you could post some clear pics of the edge - especially at LIBERTY and directly opposite? And, are the letters in LIBERTY higher than the adjacent rim?

How does the reeding look on the edge? is it consistent all the way around?