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On 7/1/2022 at 9:01 AM, Quintus Arrius said:

I would say a sizeable portion of the Forum is in an uproar.

Maybe, but Daniel Carr is pretty well known.  He is known for striking his fantasy coins on legitimate coins of the same type as planchets.  Therefore, he is not counterfeiting, as much as he is modifying legitimate coins (more like a hobo nickel).  Also, he is not modifying his coins into existing key dates (i.e. taking a 1944-D 1C and turning is into a 1914-D).  He makes coins that never existed.  

I am sure that the jury will still be out, but these factors will help the defendant.

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On 6/6/2022 at 8:42 AM, tj96 said:

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Twist the laws anyway you wish. I see this type of coin as a counterfeit. On top of that the design is not his work. He is using someone else's work. 

With that said, I'm a big fan of Carr's original work but not garbage like this. 

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On 7/3/2022 at 7:18 PM, ldhair said:

Twist the laws anyway you wish. I see this type of coin as a counterfeit. On top of that the design is not his work. He is using someone else's work. 

With that said, I'm a big fan of Carr's original work but not garbage like this. 

I don't really care what you're a fan of.  I'm not a fan of you!   If the Secret Service doesn't consider it counterfeit, it's not.  Any questions?

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On 7/3/2022 at 6:24 PM, tj96 said:

I don't really care what you're a fan of.  I'm not a fan of yours! 

I'm good with that. Thanks for your opinion.

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On 7/1/2022 at 9:01 AM, Quintus Arrius said:

I would say a sizeable portion of the Forum is in an uproar.  Brace for impact!   🐓 

... and so it came to pass. I am going to have to yield to Coinbuf on this one. (By extension, that will also necessarily require I reject the WW I poster depicting a "1915" 20-franc gold rooster 🐓, or is that just artistic license?  :roflmao:

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I look at Carr's work through a different lens:

I'm a unexperienced 16 year old working at the cash register in a busy supermarket. You hand me a piece of Carr's work as payment.

If I accept it - the line has been crossed.

If not - carry on. 
 

 

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As distinguished member @RWB memorably pointed out to me, the statue on the dome of the Capitol--of my St-Gaudens double eagle struck on a two ounce .999 silver planchet--was facing the wrong way.  :roflmao:

Highly unlikely my "coin" or that of Dan' Carr's creation would ever be spent accidentally.  Both are worth far in excess of their stated face values.

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Die polishing: correct misspelling.
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On 7/3/2022 at 7:18 PM, ldhair said:

....I'm a big fan of Carr's original work but not garbage like this. 

"One man's trash is another man's treasure [and the by-product from one food can be perfect for making another." [Complete unexpurgated quote by Yotam Ottolenghi.]

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