For Those Who Just Ordered the UHR 2009 Saint-Gaudens ...

[Boba]

nope

[sideways1-migration]

Mint has giving me false hope.

[MCADSPEC-migration]

Book was delivered today. Next day air.

[sideways1-migration]

Is the book nice.

[astrostu]

My book came on Monday. I even posted about it on this thread:

 

I just got my book this morning. Signature confirmation. It's kinda interesting, but it's definitely not worth a signature confirmation for something that looks like it'd cost $3.99 at a bookstore.

[RareSov]

MINT IS GETTING THERE

 

 

Order Status: Your order request is in process.

 

Mine shows this and in stock !! before it said on hold.

 

Finally ! hoping they ship today !! fingers crossed.. cmon PL 70 !!

[Boba]

The thought of getting a PL does make the idea of ordering another appealing...

 

I wonder if a PL finish is a result of a fresh die or a polished planchet or if it'll even happen again.

[sideways1-migration]

I think it's called luck if you get one.

[Coagman]

MINT IS GETTING THERE

 

Order Status: Your order request is in process.

 

Mine shows this and in stock !! before it said on hold.

 

Finally ! hoping they ship today !! fingers crossed.. cmon PL 70 !!

 

On Thursday on eBay, an Ultra High Relief NGC MS70 Prooflike sold for $4,982

[Coagman]

I received my NGC MS69 PL UHR from Modern Coin Mart. Both obverse and reverse have nicely reflective prooflike fields. The devices have a bit of contrast, but do not have the strong cameo effect of an American Gold Eagle proof.

 

 

 

[sideways1-migration]

CoagMan, from what I can see, that is a sharp looking coin. I think I'm going to sell my MS69, ER in a few weeks and use the money to have coins graded.

[Boba]

Wow that does look quite extraordinary

[RareSov]

Congrats CoagMan PL is as good as getting 70 !!

 

Now if I could just get both..

[RareSov]

Word is they are only getting 500 coins per die set.

 

You would think the brand new coins from new dies are getting PL only

 

And the later ones have those polish lines..

[sideways1-migration]

That coin looked 70 to me. I don't see how you can have a better looking coin than that one. I must be missing something in the picture.

[Boba]

perhaps the grader had indigestion that day.

[sideways1-migration]

Next time i'm going to wrap the coin I want graded in a hunderd dollar bill.

[Coagman]

That coin looked 70 to me. I don't see how you can have a better looking coin than that one. I must be missing something in the picture.

 

Thanks for the comments. A few marks (minute scuffs) on the reverse rim above the word “STATES” is the only possible explanation that I can find for the lower grade. It is obvious with a loupe, but you can just discern the marks in the image below.

 

 

 

[Coagman]

For those interested, another NGC MS70 PL has been listed on eBay.

 

eBay Link to MS70 PL

[Boba]

I wonder if there have been any PL's identified by PCGS yet?

[Coagman]

Unlike Morgan dollars, PCGS does not generally designate MS gold coins as prooflike with the exception of double eagles recovered from the S.S. Central America. No 2009 UHR have been given the PL designation.

 

 

[sideways1-migration]

[RareSov]

Who says PCGS are stricter than NGC ?

 

Look at this

 

http://www.moderncoinmart.com/cart1/product.php?productid=21150&cat=194&page=1

 

Then look at the NGC MS68

 

That is a 68 in PCGS 70 plastic.

[sideways1-migration]

RareSov, if CoagMan had PCGS grade his coin what grade do you think he would have.

[RareSov]

MS70

 

I want to see a PCGS 69..

 

NGC is the service to use on this coin especially if it has those mirrors. Wow coin or what

[sideways1-migration]

I agree 70. Look how many 70's are on ebay and MCM sites. This coin will separate NGC and PCGS as far as grading accuracy. NGC grades are at a higher standard.

[Boba]

See below - 2 UHR MS 70 PL coins currently for sale, same grade, have significantly different descriptions on the NGC slab.

Is there no standardization on the descriptions?

 

 

Maybe one of the graders was Ultra High

[robec1347]

MS70

 

I want to see a PCGS 69..

 

NGC is the service to use on this coin especially if it has those mirrors. Wow coin or what

 

No PL, but is PCGS 69.

 

 

[sideways1-migration]

Bob-a-loo I think I have the answer. " Shorthand", They all need to grade the same.

[Boba]

Bob-a-loo I think I have the answer. " Shorthand", They all need to grade the same.

 

I think there is a little too much credence given to the difference between 69 & a 70.

They both look nearly flawless, yet the 70 commands vastly higher premiums.

 

Is the point of collecting the coin in the holder or the holder the coin is in?