EagleRJO

On 2/7/2024 at 7:17 PM, J P M said:

I think it is odd there is no listing for such a coin in Variety Vista, so it must be an unknown variety.  

There is a 1976-D 25C DDO FS-101 ... http://www.varietyvista.com/09b WQ Vol 2/DDO Detail Pages/1976DDDO001.htm

But nothing like the stupid numbers PM is referring to, or the typ click-bait YT vids for pocket change claimed to be worth thousands with ridiculous figures flashing and hundos raining down.

Maybe Kurt is right (gulp) that all YT coin vids should be eliminated.  

On 2/7/2024 at 3:52 PM, CommunicatorDan said:

So now I need to know. Is it worth keeping coins with small die cracks and chips or should I be more on the look out for major die cracks/chips?

Most of what you find won't be worth keeping, like this coin with the small die chip or blob on the upper part of the right wheat stalk, just above the kernel, and the slightly elongated die chip between the lower part of the right wheat stalk and the rim (or a small die crack?).

There are certain minor die cracks or chips collectors find interesting, like the cracks noted above or a slightly elongated die chip at "Liberty" on older cents called a "BIE Error".  But they don't add much value.

Typically you only come across coins with significant errors every once in a blue moon, if ever, like the quarter discussed here recently ...  https://boards.ngccoin.com/topic/432665-2022-p-quarter-error-wilma-mankiller-im-not-sure/

Not even close, starting with the date which is an easy comparison.

Fake as a $2 bill ... wait, they exist ... fake as a $3 bill (okay, but they were "notes").  

On 2/7/2024 at 11:17 AM, CommunicatorDan said:

Here is what I like to know is a blob of metal near the rim called CUD or Die Break?

A small blob, or solid raised area, like on your coin would be a "die chip".  You can read up on die chips, CUDs (broken die that includes an edge) and die cracks (solid raised jagged lines) at Error-Ref.com which is an excellent error reference site.

Die chips or small/thin die cracks generally don't add any value, except where it give a coin a very distinct and interesting look (e.g. "Spitting Eagle").

Btw, good job with the coin photos.  Clear cropped full pics with add'l close up as needed.

On 2/7/2024 at 7:34 AM, Greenstang said:

... occur during the striking of the coin.

Just an FYI, an error coin is typically a mistake that occurs during striking, but it can be from other steps in the production like blanking (e.g. clipped planchet) or annealing (e.g. Black Beauty).

On 2/7/2024 at 9:16 AM, J P M said:

Will this coin qualify ...

I think it would if you just found it in a lot given the 2023 AAPLCC Collection and Attribution Standards, Third Edition under Section 2.0 "Qualifying Coins" states:

1. PLC must be found in a lot, driveway, lane, airport, structure or other surfaced area primarily used for parking of motor vehicles.
2. PLC must be found and picked up by the collector at a qualifying location, or by someone with the collector at the time of discovery as long as said collector calls "dibs".
3. PLC must as a minimum be reasonably identifiable as a known coin by shape and color.
4. A legible date and mint mark is only required for Tier-1 PLC Resistry Sets.
5. Placing a coin on the ground and repeatedly running over it with your monster truck does not qualify as a PLC discovery.

I think that one would be an excellent candidate for an "Ulgy" class of memorial cent.  Maybe a 2010 date from the shapes and spacing?

Looks like just damage where something grabbed onto the coin edge as I see similar incuse marks on both sides.

Also, for errors try to imagine how it could have occured at the mint, which for this coin comes up blank.

On 2/6/2024 at 8:43 PM, Sandon said:

The "look" of the counterfeit is quite different from that of the genuine coin

That's what really jumps out at me.  Doesn't look at all like a business strike coin from over a hundred years ago that would be dropped in a bin then a bank bag which would be tossed around.  Resembles more of a mushy proof coin that was just struck like it was, without even any noticeable contact marks.

On 2/6/2024 at 10:31 PM, powermad5000 said:

I looked at the O and noticed it was tilted and out of position

Note that many of the Morgans, including this one, have a VAM with a tilted and/or shifted mint mark.  Good starting point, along with the date position, for identifying a VAM.

On 2/6/2024 at 4:28 PM, Retromodo said:

I opened the slab/holder and it weighs 26.55g

I would focus more on trying to get your money back if recently purchased.

On 2/6/2024 at 3:07 PM, Sandon said:

The "coin" in the holder is clearly counterfeit.

I didn't even get past the label before, but looking at the coin now I think you're right.

On 2/6/2024 at 3:07 PM, Sandon said:

The coins and the holders were all counterfeits

In addition to fake TPG holders a shop that is helping me with a want list of Morgans I'm missing indicated they have also come across more fake GSA holders recently.  Buyer beware.

On 2/6/2024 at 3:23 PM, Mr.Bill347 said:

... footnote Eagle I meant mm not cm

Yes, I know.  Just having a little fun with that.   

Also, I meant to ask was that a legit sold listing for the "error" coin?  I wasn't aware of any such "error" and suspect it's bogus or someone really got taken to the cleaners.

That is some kind of knock-off grading company slab or Asian basement-slabber, and with oriental characters on the label I would pass on that coin.  Stick with NGC or PCG$ slabbed coins, and you can throw in ANACS for errors or lesser known varieties.

On 2/6/2024 at 11:34 AM, Mr.Bill347 said:

If anyone knows British coin values, I need some help...One of the coins I got yesterday is a 1 Pound 1983 coin, which according to cursory search could be worth a lot of money. Anybody know?

It appears to be silver weights 9.52 grams Has both edge reeding and edge lettering, is in AU condition, is 22cm across and 2cm thick.

At 22cm (8.66 inches) diameter and 2cm (3/4 inch) thick that is one big coin!    Kidding aside, on values have you checked the NGC World Coin values like the following which seems to be a match?

And do you have "upside down edge lettering" like the sold 1983 1-Pound coin you referenced?  That seems like a suspect sold price to begin with, and I'm not sure what they mean by "upside down" edge lettering since it may be that is added with a separate press with the edge lettering in either position depending on how it's fed into the press like US coins (Position-A or Position-B)?

NGC Values 1983 1-Pound Coin

NGC Values 1986 2-Pound Coin

The old Brittish money before they standardized with all the coins and terms like quid, guinea, sovereign, crown, shilling, florin, helm, groat, bit, bob, pence, farthing, etc was crazy and I would have needed a translation and conversion book to buy a pack of gum.  

Also, I think @Coinbuf has the honor of assembling the first P-Lot collection attached, and is a founding member of AAPLCC.  

Are you following the AAPLCC (American Association of Parking Lot Coin Collectors) standards for obtaining and classifying these parking lot coin finds?

A while ago I started a short set of parking lot coins I call "The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly" with 3 of each denomination including the best I could find, an average one, and the worst I could find.

So far I only have the cents and nickels done for this short set, where it's been slim pickings on others with just a few good dime and quarter finds. Tough times I guess, and walking around with change may be less common.

https://boards.ngccoin.com/topic/428801-parking-lot-coins/

On 2/5/2024 at 7:32 PM, Rykel said:

I applaud your sarcasm. Okay I'm going to ask you to think don't hurt yourself if it wasn't acid that ate away the coin would the coin weigh more or less take your time don't hurry it's a tough one.

Now take your time, and just read the reply slowly as I know it will seriously drain your mental capacity, and remember to breath as serious brain drains can affect respiratory functions.  Weights are sometimes good diagnostic indicators.  Okay, I know that was really tough on you, but you should recover in a few days having expended so much mental effort trying to both read and understand that.  Okay, back to ignoring you which is what I should have done in the first place.

Not to go after them, just so other collectors are aware.

On 2/4/2024 at 10:56 PM, Henri Charriere said:

My only question is, is it just me, or has anyone else felt the photograph used as a model is most unflattering. Or is this photograph, which I have seen repeatedly, the only one available?

It looks like there are a number of images representing her just looking at wiki for the three different coins to be issued representing different periods in her life.

https://www.usmint.gov/learn/coin-and-medal-programs/commemorative-coins/harriet-tubman

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harriet_Tubman

Did you catch the dealers name or company?

On 2/5/2024 at 6:53 AM, EagleRJO said:

What is the weight to 0.01g?

I suspect this coin is somewhat over the weight you would expect for a worn cent as it appears an adhesive was added to the reverse in order to stick the coin on something, and then later peeled off that.

If it was struck-through or acid damaged, which it doesn't appear to be, then it would weigh about or less than the spec weight with an adjustment to consider wear.

What is the weight to 0.01g?

You likely have a normal 1971 copper-nickel clad half dollar with no mintmark since it's from the Philadelphia (P) mint.  See the following link for your coin ... https://www.ngccoin.com/coin-explorer/united-states/half-dollars/kennedy-half-dollars-1964-date/16716/1971-50c-ms/

There were a handful of 1971-D half dollars struck in Denver on left over 40% silver clad planchets used up to 1970 which are an error coin some collectors look for.  There are a few who have posted over the years with similar looking coins thinking they found one of these errors, but they turned out to be normal copper-nickel clad coins.

The edge or your coin may have a lighter more silver-like color from the blanking and upsetting combined with wear, but the signs of a copper core are there.  If you do a specific gravity test or take it to a coin or jewelry shop with an XRF tester they can likely verify it's just a clad coin for you.  Also, your coin is not from the Denver mint assuming you are correct that there is no mintmark just below the neckline.

On 2/4/2024 at 11:54 PM, Sandon said:

Please post a photo of the other side of the coin. Based on what I can see so far, this does not appear to be a genuine overstruck coin or other mint error

It's not clear what possible legit error would have both the quarter and cent impressions, rims of the cent, and mirrored elements from the cent.

Not an error.  Notice that the cent lettering is a mirror image. It looks like someone pressed a memorial cent up against a quarter in a vice.  So it's just damaged with no extra value.