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Your coin can't be an RPM-002 as the mint mark is farther to the left and lower than that shown on Variety Vista for that variety.  You have to save and rotate the VV image so that the date is level to see this clearly.

On 2/13/2024 at 1:25 PM, CommunicatorDan said:

As much as I read up on machine doubling, I have a hard time distinguishing between [machine] doubling and authentic.

In addition to the comprehensive discussion on this at Wexler's site referenced by Sandon, see the discussion on "How Dies are Made" on that site as well as the attached infographic on this.  You really have to hold the coin in your hand and tilt it with some magnification to clearly see the height difference of doubled elements.

On 2/14/2024 at 12:59 PM, Henri Charriere said:

... pupils/students between the 3rd and 8th grades in NYC were NOT proficient in math and English

Not really something new, but likely made worse by Covid.  

On 2/13/2024 at 1:35 AM, TheKid316 said:

So all of those mofo's just use that as click bait, "hunt for hidden treasures amongst the circulated and bank rolls." I am not going to lie that takes a big part of the excitement out of it for me. No offense intended for anyone involved but it just seems like another hobby for the well off ...

Well said by Neophyte that there are many ways to engage in this hobby depending on your budget and personal preferences.  There are a number of people on this forum that roll hunt modern coins, which really only costs you some time going to the bank to get rolls.  Some prefer cents and nickels, but I prefer larger coins and have hunted through pocket change and rolls for quarters, half dollars and dollar coins going back quite a long time.

I have found a few coins I could sell and some silver from roll hunting, but nothing super valuable like most.  I still look for those as it's still possible to find valuable coins hunting through pocket change and rolls, but it's really not about that or something a collector should expect.  There are also a number like me that collect modern proof or uncirculated dollar coins, like Presidential dollars or the Innovation dollars currently being produced by the mint.  Those are a few dollars each at most, and some of the uncirculated Presidential dollars you could also find roll hunting.

So how someone collects coins can vary greatly, but does not necessarily require deep pockets or really any money at all.  However, it is not like these clickbait videos some make coin collecting out to be where you can easily strike it rich simply searching through pocket change.

On 2/12/2024 at 8:20 AM, J P M said:

Well hear is a good one, two of the coins in holders that I looked up for reference have no listings.

NGC 1622190-002 SP 69 There is no 69 or 70 SP only a 68+ 

The one in an NGC holder referenced is from my post above which was obtained from the HA site listed in a 2004 auction.  I thought HA checked certs, so I wonder if it was crossed over or something since then as that was a while ago.

On 2/11/2024 at 6:54 PM, Midwest Dozer said:

the real slab's they look kind of shinny  looks like the light is reflecting off of them to me

Does your coin (or coins) have a similar appearance, but you are just unable to track them back to a specific source?

On 2/11/2024 at 12:26 AM, powermad5000 said:

8 hours pass and you miss a lot on here...

On 2/11/2024 at 5:30 PM, Midwest Dozer said:

no such thing as a sms

There are coins labeled as special strike 1964 Kennedy Half Dollars with a unique appearance and characteristics, originally being discussed here before the wipe, which some collectors consider very rare and valuable in the six figure range.

See the following NGC and PCG$ links and attached examples.  I think the op was trying to cut-paste the info from the NGC linked webpage.  It's believed those special coins can somehow be traced back to renowned NY coin dealer Lester Merkin who obtained them directly from a mint employee.

https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/1964-50c-sms/6844

https://www.ngccoin.com/coin-explorer/united-states/half-dollars/kennedy-half-dollars-1964-date/76045/1964-50c-sp/

I don't see any reason not to post photos of the entire obverse and reverse of the coin in question to discuss.  It might be helpful to others who may be mistakenly searching for these coins in rolls.

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If they are still reviewing the coin you may want to also take some better photos of the edge at a slight angle to show both the appearance and color with substantially intact reeding and rims which may be helpful.

Was that done to clearly show the edges?

On 2/10/2024 at 6:14 PM, Glynn K. said:

And the rim is the same color orange.

That's not really what was posted here before which included an edge photo showing mostly a silver color with intact reeding and rims, that may have had a narrow brown band like any modern clad coin.  That led me, and probably others, to believe that there was a possibility the cladding peeled off after blanking but before being struck.  If the entire edge is in fact the same orange color as the faces then the coin likely is just acid damaged.

On 2/10/2024 at 10:43 PM, Midwest Dozer said:

i know something now that doesnt matter so ok im going to drop it and ill never post one thing about that coin

Just curious what so dramatically changed your mind, because just hours ago you were convinced they were very valuable coins and were being dismissive or rhetorically argumentative about comments that may have suggested otherwise.

Also, since you have been posting about these coins you keep in a safe for so long, have you submitted one for authentication but are unhappy with the results, which would make more sence.

On 2/9/2024 at 9:40 PM, Henri Charriere said:

Here is the direct quote:  "I took it to a coin dealer and said it is most likely real" ... Absent context, none of the above make sense.  Compare those, with this: "I took it (past tense) to a coin dealer and [he] said it was (past tense) most likely real. (period)"

I also assume he means the coin dealer said it was real, as it wouldn't make sense if he told the dealer it was real but still has questions about it.

On 2/9/2024 at 5:43 PM, RamonSantiago said:

I took it to a coin dealer and said it is most likely real

I agree with Greenstang that you need to find a new dealer.  Which "coin dealer" so anyone in the area knows to avoid that one.

On 2/9/2024 at 2:59 PM, J P M said:

The 45 long was also for the rifle, so you did not have to carry different rounds of cartridges.

Interesting, as that probably would have been a Winchester rifle chambered for the 45 Long Colt which I didn't know he used.  But it seems like whoever came up with that quarter design did some research into the correct pistols and ammunition for that time, and I'm curious if what is depicted on the quarter is from a photograph as it appears pretty accurate and period correct like the 45 Colt pistol and belt shown above.

On 2/9/2024 at 5:47 PM, RWB said:

Well, my background in historic pistols, etc. is about as effective as a 22-short at 1 mile....  

I know just enough to be dangerous, but my interest is more related to Teddy as a person including his adventures in the ND Badlands and subsequent park dedication as depicted on the 2016 quarter.  The National Park Service has an old but pretty comprehensive publication about that (for only a quarter at that time ) ...

https://www.nps.gov/parkhistory/online_books/thro/tr_badlands.pdf

On 2/9/2024 at 11:30 AM, CommunicatorDan said:

I was reading up on a type of error "small date over large date". 

This type of error is NOT on this coin but something that might be similar.

The small/large overdate error or variety possible up to around 1910 when dates were still hand punched onto dies wouldn't relate to something which could occur to a letter on the reverse of a modern coin, which I agree just appears to be damage.

I agree it just looks like "worthless" doubling with wear ... https://doubleddie.com/144801.html.

On 2/9/2024 at 12:59 AM, Emmure said:

I'm pretty sure this is a double die obverse

Its "doubled die", and next time check Wexler's site which has pretty comprehensive DDO listings to see if it matches one that is known to exist.  It's not very likely at all for there to be a new DDO discovery since 1942.  

https://www.pcgs.com/news/its-doubled-die

https://doubleddie.com/499534.html

On 2/8/2024 at 6:49 PM, ThePhiladelphiaPenny said:

... how to better clean this penny

You don't.  

On 2/8/2024 at 8:21 PM, RWB said:

The ammunition in his cartridge belt, will not fit the pistol in his holster.

How so?  He was known to have frequently visited the Little Missouri River Badlands depicted on the coin between 1883 and 1886 while in the army, so the pistol is likely the army issue M1873 SAA Colt 45.  The standard army issue 45 Long Colt cartridges of the period are much longer than more modern pistol cartridges, and would stick out like a sore thumb on the belt similar to the attached, with one empty cartridge on the right.

Have you been hanging out with QA lately, or maybe I am missing the inscriptions on the pistol and the cartridge cases depicted on the belt.   

On 2/8/2024 at 8:16 PM, RWB said:

The difference are critical and can be captured in good photos, but it requires skills the ANA photographer lacked.

I think the images from the link are miles ahead of the example pictures included in the latest ANA Grading Standards, and fairly similar to the CoinFacts or PhotoGrade examples for particular grades, with the addition of the descriptions which I think is key.

For me it's sometimes difficult to distinguish between two adjacent mint state grades, even with the coins in-hand.  But I am working on it, so maybe one of these days "in a galaxy far,far away" the light bulb will go on.

But if you know of a better source with good photos as indicated that would clearly capture the differences between two adjacent mint state grades perhaps you could share that.

On 2/8/2024 at 6:50 PM, Henri Charriere said:

What I see, highlighted in Frame 3, is an altered sub-machine with grip, which clearly did not exist during President Roosevelt's reign

I don't know what you have been smoking but I see a standard holstered pistol, likely an army Colt M1873 or the M1892 he carried as a Rough Rider, with a pistol barrel tip projecting below the holster bottom and his left hand resting on the pistol with the forward facing grip visible.

Below the pistol are just the tassels of his riding pants.  You may have been watching too many WWII movie re-runs recently.   

On 2/8/2024 at 5:28 PM, RWB said:

To me, the photos do little to differentiate a true AU ("AU-58") from all the UNC versions

The difference between say an AU58 and MS60 or say an MS65 and MS67 is very minor and I don't necessarily think you could capture that with just photographs.

But I think is helpful to have the high-resolution photos to go with the descriptions.  Much better than the example images included with the ANA grading standard.

You will only find listings for an RPM thru 1989 including sites like Wexler's, Variety Vista or NGC Variety Plus, as starting in 1990 the mint added the mint mark to the master die.  So that coin can't be an RPM and doesn't appear to match any known DDO's for a 1994-D cent.  I would post a picture of the reverse, and look for any other signs of doubling on the coin.

On 2/6/2024 at 10:21 PM, powermad5000 said:

That looks like a listing, not a sold price, as there is still a buy it now button visible.

That one actually was a "Sold" listing for a 1983 1-Pound coin with "upside down" edge lettering (see attached), which was sold on eBay for $3,900 on 1/7/24 which appears to have been a "setup" sale.

I would bet the family ranch the scam artist purchased the coin from themself in order to sucker someone into buying that coin, or similar ones they are selling, for a ridiculous price.  I see the exact same coin with the same pictures now currently listed for sale on ScamBay for $3,000 ... What a Bargain! ... ScamBay Listing: 1983 Elizabeth II one pound upside down

That is why I say you should always check guide prices, and take individual sold listings with a grain of salt!

On 2/6/2024 at 10:25 PM, Mr.Bill347 said:

One did sell 2-4-24 for $15 not near as nice as mine. So still looks like a good investment.

Well, I don't think coins are a good "investment", but if you got the coins for a decent price then good on you with the additions to your collection.  

On 2/8/2024 at 7:05 AM, J P M said:

Zoom in so the whole coin fills the screen ...

I would suggest trying to adjust the distance from the phone to the coin to substantially fill the screen, in order to ensure that the auto-focus is picking up the coin and not the surrounding area.  If the auto-focus is set on the surrounding area the pic can become blurry as soon as you start zooming in on the photo.

On 2/8/2024 at 2:49 PM, VKurtB said:

I would think that a 2010 cent would be “shielded” from being a Lincoln Memorial cent. 

Very true.  Astute observation, as it then may likely be a 2000 cent.  In any event it wouldn't qualify for a Tier-1 PLC Registry Set due to the apparent "road rash" present.  

I came across a summary of the ANA grading standards for Morgans on their website (money.org) with high resolution example images of the various grades, and thought I would share the link ... https://www.money.org/morgan-dollar-coin-grading/

This is a duplicate topic where opinions were already provided.  You may want to move any appropriate comments so it isn't further confused.

https://boards.ngccoin.com/topic/432683-1971-silver-half-dollar/#comment-9868243