GBrad

I love Wheaties! What a nice find for sure and it looks to be in relatively good condition.

RWB....My wife just walked by, glanced at my computer, and saw that you said "your" (to my wife 'your', has the ultimate meaning of 'HER') home will resemble a "Greasy-Spoon Diner"....... I tried in vain, and my absolute best, to explain your comment to my wife but she does not like you now. Sorry......

Oh…. Yes… I forgot to add that too, thanks RWB. And one more thing, these essential oil vaporizers which we have used and enjoy (and any humidifier as far as that goes) are not good for coins whether your coins are stored in flips or not…especially laying on your coin “work table” uncovered. The vapor mist they introduce into the room are not a coins best friend.

To all of the newcomers here I wanted to share this with you. First of all, I found it a bit amusing (after realizing none of the coins were valuable...Phewww) when I picked up this rubber band out of a spare change cup we have here at our house and realized it was an "instant coin bracelet". How it got there, I have no idea. I then figured I'd post a pic of it here on the forum as a tidbit of learning information for those new to the hobby. I'm not exactly sure what chemical compounds are in a rubber band (obviously rubber is one of them....duh) but they must also contain compounds along the lines of PVC and/or plastic. PLEASE.... store your coins in NON-PVC and NON-PLASTIC flips. A special material called Mylar, which the better coin flips are made of, is the best thing in which to store your coins. Mylar contains no plastic or PVC. Just trying to help out here and show our friends and members what can happen to a coin(s) stored improperly.

Good luck finding a 1776 penny.......

I agree with everything Hoopster just said. Same thing I tried to relay but he did it much better.

Your original posted Cent is not a spiked head. It is also not a die gouge. The bubble you see behind Lincoln's head is a plating blister, plain and simple, nothing else.

Trying to figure out your question here as you have now posted two different coins. The first coin in your post I have quoted (albeit a very blurry pic) appears to be much more like what a die crack should look like thus producing the so called "spiked head". Your second pic is of the same coin in the opening post but I cannot make out anything other than the plating blister we have previously mentioned.

By no means am I one to give the best advice on submissions here but I will tell you what I have learned from the pros here on this forum. I believe, if you would like to submit your coin in this instance, that ANACS is the best way to go. From what I understand they are a very good TPG to submit to for potential errors such as your coin. Their costs are (once again, from what I gather) some of the lowest for attributing and slabbing error coins (you'd have to check their prices). I believe your Cent, as well as others here have commented, is a strike through. In the grand scheme of errors, this type of error is near the bottom of the food chain so to speak (NO disrespect at all for your coin, I think it is a nice). We, here on the forum, have tried to determine what caused the appearance of your coin and the unanimous decision has been that it is a struck through of some sort. If you would like to submit it then please do so. I do not think there is anything wrong at all with submitting a coin such as yours that has the true potential of being returned and slabbed a mint error "Struck Through". Good luck.

Nope. I don't believe this is a die crack which is required to be considered a spiked head. Looks more like a plating blister to me granted this is a 1982 Zinc or newer year model. Your pic doesn't show the full date but by the appearance of your coin, I'd have to say it is a zincoln..... Not a spiked head.

Hey J P. Considering the "price guides" (last resort) but then looking at the previous sales both on eBay and previous well known auction houses (first resort) for NGC graded coins of this year and grade, I think you did pretty good on this one for $88 bucks.

Brockages and Counterbrokages are very difficult to determine even with a real example coin in hand. Here is a quote straight from the same link you supplied in one of your previous posts: [Copy and pasted from error-ref.com] The eight scenarios presented above represent the simplest paths to a brockage-counterbrockage error. Naturally, things can get much more complicated. Brockages are a totally different animal than a "simple" (using this word loosely) struck through error. Your coin is not a result of any form of brockage. I feel relevantly confident that your coin has been determined to be a very nice example of a struck through error caused by an irregular shaped piece of a very thin die cap. Even though this was determined in a roundabout way with the help of @Oldhoopster (which I am grateful for). Your struck through coin definitely appears to have been caused by a very thin and odd shaped sliver of the remnants of a piece of a capped die. Had the foreign object, meaning the thin sliver piece of a dismantled die cap been anything thicker, we would not be able to see some of the letters of IGWT nor the outline of Lincoln's profile. Hope this helps.

I also agree 100%!!! Thank you for your kind comment too.

Couldn't resist this one coming in at MS67. The color is off the charts with this coin in hand.

Ok, now we are on the same page, just took a minute for me to think "outside the box". My thought process was that you were talking about an entire round blank....not a fragment. Yes, a partial indent is a strike through regardless of what got in the way of the strike. I can see how remnants of a die cap could tear apart after being repeatedly struck time and time again, making the die cap very thin, and then tearing into odd shapes. This thin piece of misshaped die cap could then become the object that caused the struck through on the op's coin. Thanks for putting up with my theories on this one but it appears we were thinking the same thing all along.

Indent; Partial PART VI. Striking Errors: Indents: Partial Indents Definition:An “indent” is defined by the hobby as an indentation from an unstruck blank or planchet. Any other kind of indentation is referred to as a “struck-through error”. @Oldhoopster Hello. Based on the definition/explanation taken from error-ref.com, per your supplied link regarding a partial indent, I am inclined to further believe the op's coin is a very nice and large example of a struck through. Based on error-ref's explanation, a partial indent is caused by an unstruck blank or planchet being struck 'into' another planchet. This would result (as supplied in the pics on error-ref.com) in a round coin shape appearance of a planchet which would produce a ghost like image much like the op's coin . The op's example, however, shows an incuse shape much more different than that of the typical rounded curvature of a blank. This leads me to believe the op's coin, by definition, to be a struck through. I too am very familiar with error-ref, I use it regularly myself, and I also have it bookmarked for quick reference. Please correct me if I am wrong in my observance of this error.

In regards to your quote/question, I believe it is very possible for a whole assortment of mint errors to still occur. The process is still the same (for the most part but with advanced technology) in that you have an anvil die, and a hammer die, just like they did umpteen years ago which still strike together imparting great forces to create a coin. Anything getting in the way of a new planchet can cause many odd errors, much like what I believe yours to be. I am a bit stumped on this one with my very limited knowledge. The weight is pretty much on the money for this year Cent which lends credence to nothing having been shaved off of it post mint. While it very well could be a partially capped die, which I will admit can be very confusing when it comes to understanding die caps, brockages, counter brockages, etc..... How about this idea I'll thrown out here as a thought. Could this be one major Struck Through of a pliable foreign material??? I propose this because of the relative completeness and entirety of the rim on the obverse which I believe would show flatness and/or damage had it been struck by metal. Just food for discussion here.

Too much glare on the obverse pic to tell anything. I will say that I have see some very odd, yet interesting, verified mint errors lately on some other forums so I'm not ruling this one out just yet as PMD. Especially since you can still make out IN, Linc's nose and profile, and the rim and gutter is still intact, albeit a little bit bent which is questionable IMO, but doesn't look too badly damaged. The reverse is questionable though due to it not showing any discrepancies possibly associated with a strike of this nature. Is the obverse area in question incuse or raised? Better and clearer pics would be much more helpful as would a weight of the Cent in at least tenths of a gram.

But look at the bright side...... I don't have an overlay for a Morgan at the moment but is that a die clash on the upper cheek (or maybe acne..)????? Sorry.... just some more of my needless humor here........ Just trying to lighten it up.....

I'm feeling very kind and heartfelt tonight (as opposed to some other nights when I speak my mind after my meds....... please forgive me for those instances that I sometimes regret) so I'm going to try to make @Tridmn feel a tad bit better here (but still, a good learning lesson and some very good advice from our fellow friends and forum members here). First of all, an S minted Morgan of this year, in the lowest of XF40 condition, still sells for around $1,000 bucks! Not to mention the lowest of grades, a 2... sells for $200 bucks. I do agree that the seller of this coin is a total dirtbag for even attempting to sell this fake. However, as said previously, be VERY GLAD you did not pay more than $10 dollars for it! That is a blessing in and of itself. Hey.... we all make mistakes! We are human and we will always make mistakes. BUT....... had you done some research on this one, you wouldn't be out $10 bucks (thankfully that's all) for this purchase. No idea where you purchased it from but I STRONGLY urge you to utilize PCGS Photograde pics to compare any future Morgan, or any denomination purchases for that matter, to the price guide here on both NGC and PCGS as well. Photograde is a great tool to use to look at all of the minute details of any coin you may decide to purchase online in order to possibly discern a real coin from a counterfeit. This coin of yours screams fake all day long had you compared it to known examples. Seller content, history, feedback and ratings are among a few things are absolutely PARAMOUNT when purchasing online, as well as their return policies. I can just about bet that you have no recourse for this one due to the illegitimacy surrounding this Morgan. Like I said, we have all been burned (some more than others) but you definitely came out good on this one (price wise) for not having spent more than you did. Just trying to give you some encouragement here Tridmn.

Hey Mike. Now that I look at this coin while I'm awake, I can now see more of the Blakesley effect being present which I totally didn't make out last night. I was focused so much on the rim, particularly the reverse rim, where the ends of the rim appear to 'curl' inwards towards the field which signaled to me PMD. The obverse rim, to me, also appeared to have a slight curl outwards (ending of rim at top position on obverse). These were just my observations but now that you mentioned some other important criteria I am inclined to change my mind.

Sorry here but I'm going to have to give my opinion on this one. I don't think this is a real mint error clipped planchet based on your pictures. There are certain things to look for on a true clipped planchet, versus a homemade job, and IMHO this one was homemade. Looks much like a fingernail clipper job to me.

Now if that ain't a Southern term, "onions" (meant to be read as 'for all a-yuns'), then I'm definitely not worthy of being from the South!! That is akin, and better than, "Uins"......

Happy Thanksgiving to all of the members and the friends I have made here on this forum. You all mean a tremendous amount to me and not just from a coin collecting perspective. I hope you and yours have a blessed and great Thanksgiving!!!!

Man.... I tried to block you a long time ago but you have too much clout here on the forum that it wouldn't let me block you!!!!!