Jason Abshier

That’s what environmental damage looks like after while starts to getting a crusty corrosion eats away at the coin surface , and a dipped coin left to long in a dipping solution comes out looking like whole surface been lightly sand blasted

I do want get a better camera setup for taking some serious pictures of coin , I have been thinking about opening up an online coin business selling some of the personal coins I have in my collection . An IPhone is great tool it takes decent pictures but a better camera will make a world of difference . @Coinbuf shared a few articles with me other day about coin photography and lighting was a really good educational read that’s worth any coin collectors grain of salt to take some serious pictures of coins

That coin reminds me of a coin that been left in coin dipping solution too long etches the coin have that weird texture look to it almost like environmental damaged coin

A coin collector friend sent me this since I bidding on French live coin auctions for last few weeks I always get an email written in French when I win a coin. Too funny not to share

That Germania proof 5 mark I should of tip the coin up a little on angle to stop the doubling glare on the lettering and the devices around the coin (it’s showing shadow doubling in the field of the coin) . Proof coins are sometimes tough to take good picture . But still looks better than some of pictures sellers take online when selling coins like Ebay ! Is full of annoying bad pictures of coins they are trying to sell .

@coinjunky these are few of recent sample of what can be accomplished with just an basic IPhone .. they aren’t top quality photos only a good camera setup can take better top notch quality photos … theses are some of the recent photos I’ve taken with an IPhone

@coinjunky May I suggest what are you using to take pictures ? If it an iPhone ? You can get better quality pictures than that (actually really good pictures with an IPhone) . Simply lay coin down flat on black paper or dark blue . Get yourself a small cardboard box lay IPhone flat on box or book stacked up with camera just over the edge of box about 5 inches above the coin (the box or books helps hold your phone steady and flat) , use zoom on your iPhone to get coin image as full as you can on your screen then shoot a picture , then crop the picture and save it will make it look bigger … 99% of my coins been shot with an IPhone I find “natural” light like about 4 feet from a window shows natural look of coin as if I was looking at the coin in my hands with no bright lights to alter the color of the coin practice and practice you’ll get better at it . Once you get it where you like it easy to take multiple pictures of multiple coins but do not try to edit “color” of a coin if you need light ? Try using LED light you can shade it out with “white paper” to stop bright glares on coin surface that show up on photos when using lighting you’ll have play around with distance of lighting above your camera or on side of camera and coin it’s not hard to accomplish just need practice and mess around

I often wondered if it was same person like disgruntled member comes in here to stir the pot for kicks and giggles

Sorry topic went off to beer 🍺 . You are correct a lot of these newer folks are seeing stuff on Facebook , YouTube channels about error coins they believe every PMD damaged coin is an error, if that were the case we’d all have a collection of parking lot error coins so easy to find . I don’t know why a lot of these newer folks are trying to get into error coins (that’s a deep numismatic field that take some serious book or online studying outside of general numismatic collecting) instead they should just start collecting some basic coins and sit back don’t ask too many question and learn something by “reading” … When I was boy my grandfather was a collector he took me to coin shows he had three rules ! 1) don’t touch anything! 2) keep your mouth shut when I’m speaking to dealers or looking at coins (basically I kept quiet whole time he was at the show) 3) stay by his side at all times do not even walk 5 feet from him … those were back in days when we got our butts whooped in public nobody batted an eye either it was common my grandfather was a good WW2 vet he’s the one who got me started in coin collection

Probably the most horrible beer I’ve drank was Black label Canadian beer that’s was actually made by Pabst blue ribbon not sure if they make it anymore I really don’t care to even try it again … Years ago my buddies and I were to meet at my Deer camp for deer season just me , my dad , my 2 friends one buddy hold on I’ll bring the beer for everyone . No problem cool with us all he showed up with 2 (24 packs) said he got this awesome deal we drank it it was okay next day we were all sick in and out of the commode !!! Needless to say we never let him buy the beer again (he was a cheapo his wife used show up at his work every payday to get his pay check from him exactly at lunch time he would run out and give her the check, I actually pitied him for that but that was no excuse to buy cheap nasty beer!!!) @Alex in PA. I know what you mean about those “Corp” drinkers my oldest son is a Staff sergeant E-6 in Marine Corp when ever he comes home to visit or deer hunt with me he drinks like a case beer a day !!! Next morning get up early and run it off … My wife told me have talk with him about his drinking “I’m like what do you want me to say to him ?” Quit drinking ? Cut down ? He wasn’t like that before he went into the Marine Corps oh well he’s responsible not driving around getting DUIs or fights or anything like that

1859 German Baden 1/2 Kreuzer

Picked up a couple of more German Baden Kreuzers today. 1869 German Baden 1 Kreuzer

@Alex in PA. have you tried IPA ? lol! I can’t stand IPAs they taste like soap! It’s flashback reminder of my mother putting soap in my mouth when I said bad words which never did me any good anyways, my mother when she was mad used say hundred bad words in few seconds that would of made a church full of nuns pass out she literally cursed in devil tongue

Drank a lot Genny cream ale and rolling rock and Pabst blue ribbon back in my reckless highschool party days 😉

Iron city beer used to be okay back Then up until the late 90’s rumors were floating around they were weren’t paying their water bill hanging on bankruptcies and they were tapped into the river next to the sewage plant using river water 🤣 always wonder why I got headaches after drinking I.C now a days I’m Team RWB . @RWBdrink RWB juice while you read some RWB book on coins and minting *warning ! After drinking so many RWBs you’ll start to notice every coin you see is a double die ! That’s only a short term side effect of RWB juice*

🤮 Pittsburgh sewage beer

@Mr.Bill347look like nice raw collectible German coins . If you ever want to sell you know where put them on here if you do I’ll definitely buy some … The coin I was looking for the set I’m working on right now look like this , I can’t find them minty condition I just bought 2 more over in France that are in mint condition I’m waiting on them to ship to me but every once in awhile I see some minty Baden Kreuzers pop up from time to time ,definitely a tough coin to find in mint condition

Not to get to far off topic is anyone familiar with grading scale of the new French coin grading company GENI ? How are they compared to NGC/PCGS on grading scale ? I haven’t been doing business on European market since about 2015 … I was bidding in a few auctions came across the slabbed coins GENI must of opened up around few years ago , I like the look of their holders I might bid on a few of their coins in the auction just to have a few coins that are graded by them . I know over in European countries some collectors have hard time having coins shipped through custom to get to NGC or PCGS offices That are based overseas in that area , it’s a matter of time before they develop their own coin grading companies looks like the French finally took that step grading coins

@Mr.Bill347 you plan on selling any of the coins ? I might be interested in old German coins . I’m working on my German Baden 1 Kreuzer (KM# 242) and German Baden 1/2 Kreuzer (KM# 241) if got any in MS condition (chocolate brown or splash of red copper) I’ll buy them if you want to sell. I been working on a set putting them together they are pretty hard to find in MS condition , but I may consider AU at the most if I see what they look like

Just a month ago I biding on a coin I jumped on it a little too early it was up on last day of bidding however I was highest bid at $160 . Someone else came by towards last hour of the bidding me and 3 others were already bidding price ran up to $180 if I remember correctly I backed out however this person shows up out of nowhere starts running the price up to $190-$195 , $200 finally the 1st person who started the bidding actually won. It was $220 or something like that. “this person who ran price up” in last hour had a “buyer rating” of 10 seem odd new buyer would show up and run price up on something like that also seems like they were only hanging out around this specific seller jacking prices up. I’m sure it could be family member “hey I’ll pay it and you give me my money back blah blah blah make it legit”. Or the seller will say the transaction never paid through the 2nd highest bidder not interested or something

That is true even bidding going on over in European market is probably rigged as well . I’ve only bid in 4 coins from heritage only won 1 of them , I was warned by a few about heritage bidding on their own stuff to run the prices up … thanks for mentioning that good information helps out new people on here . As well as even me I’d be lying if I said I haven’t engaged into a bidding wars and get carried away and actually won having to pay a high price and fees I have and I learned the hard way . But lately I only bid what I’m willing to pay and not get carried away sometimes bidding can become a serious addiction just as bad as gambling I wouldn’t rely on it all time or have high hopes of winning all the time …

I been collecting for over 30 years I’ve never considered myself an expert or the other collectors/dealers around me not even the TPG are experts. but I gotten a wealth of good information on here from knowledgeable collectors like you and few others . good Ol’ information we just can’t find in book all time simply come here to gain knowledgeable information from members who study a specific field of numismatics

I agree with everyone else is saying they are harshly polished up if you see highly shiny spots all over the coin it looks shiny front to back chances are it was polished up old circulated coins even UNC. Coins don’t look like that with or without light . There’s a difference between cleaning (polishing or rubbing friction on the coin to make it shiny) dipping a coin which in opinion is not cleaning (which should only be done an a rare occasion for a coin that may benefit from a proper dipping)

I do see a lot nice world coins in PCGS holders do I feel they are looser on grading compared to NGC ? no but I do notice they both have different grading standard . I see PCGS awards high grades for “luster bomb” coins , as where NGC may not award a coin for high luster but a stronger strike basically the same trend we see with US coins . Do I feel PCGS is worth more than NGC coin ? That’s matter of buyer which they like how much loyalty they prefer towards one of grading companies . But I do notice the PCGS world coins AGAIN ! trying to sell for higher premiums like they are more superior over NGC when we all know NGC has more deeper history and better knowledge and deeper data base grading world coins than PCGS ever will they joined the world coin market a little too late . I’m not trying bash PCGS I do see some nice interesting coins in their holders i would buy both either way even some older white ANACS world coins as well

Since you bought that up , few smaller stores around me have signs up they need help with quarters and nickels and dimes … I think it’s a circulation problem that’s going on you’re not the first to notice it been going on for awhile in some areas and smaller stores