MIKE BYRNE

I Wasatch Rick Tomaska. The man is good. I don't buy from him I listen and learn. Last night tinkerers most interesting fact. For those who watch the show. He will goldmine sheet with mintages. Also is the grade and how many PCGS and NGC graded in a certain grade PCGS  is the most liberal graders I have ever seen. Ten twenty thirty times higher than NGC. And its no secret the Smith didn't pick them as the best slabs. There putting three hundred of our most famous and expensive coins in NGC slabs. They tested them for everything. Watch the show once and learn who's given out the higher grades. For money. Mike

Ok I wrote this blog I am sorry I did. First the coins cost nothing. Then what are they doing putting them into the Red Book grading companies. By this it money a  money maker for the companies and the sellers. I can't serch for them because I'm disabled. The amount of time it takes to get each coin out is crazy. We will be looking for years for these. When I saw first week of issue. That's not a collector that's a seller. The longer there out there the more they get beat up. So go to all the banks. They stopped giving out boxes some time now. They were constantly ordering from the fed. And guess who got two. I did from my wife's laundry money. I refuse to pay for something that cost nothing. That doesn't make sense. I'm getting tired of these games. This was supposed to be to bring more people to the hobby. Ask anyone in the street what a mint mark is. They will think your nuts. Take care there is one 68 everything else just drop like a rock. The graders make money and we

On 5/7/2019 at 6:06 AM, MIKE BYRNE said:

There is hope. If I can find one anyone can. I believe there is to much being out into this. Yes rumors have it that famous people were given high grade coins and were the first found. That's an incorrect statement. It should say they were sent  in first. It's impossible to tell which was found first. Common sense will tell you that. Who's to say  seller or dealer found one and didn't send it in? It's just another spin and another label. This is to make this a valuable set that's all has nothing to do with collecting. Let's see who gets the complete set in high grade . 

out. Mike

On 5/28/2019 at 12:59 AM, Kohaku said:

As an example, I found an absolutely stunning Pertinax denarius while perusing a wonderful coin shop in Munich.  The only "flaw" was a fairly pronounced flan crack.  I didn't realize my peril...when I returned home and unpacked my suitcase, I was all ready to pack up my latest coin off to NGC for grading and include into my collection...to my dismay, the coin had split into two! :-(

Needless to say, I didn't bother to ship to NGC for grading (although I do wonder is there is some reasonable method to repair it?!).

Also sorry about my late response to your response...I have take several weeks hiatus from the collection, focusing on other things. I hope to get around to some more research/postings soon!

Cheers!

Hi Mike here. NGC does wonderful things.They more than likely can put it back. I'm not sure if the value but it would look nice in your collection. Call them. You will never know.  Mike.

 

 

I have to go with NGC. We can argue grades all day long. Yes a few have been changed if you want to spend the money evertime. But the Smithsonian Institute tested the slabs. NGC came out the best in every category. Then they placed three hundred of our most famous coins and expensive coins in NGC holders. That's very important.Put them in a holder not up to par your grade will fall. I have coins in my safe. In twenty five years raw or holders none toned.  Until  I noticed last week. The only coin that toned in part of it was in a PCGS holder. Nothing else. That should tell you something since I don't like toning. Somehow air got in that holder and it's an ugly tone. It's on a five ounce coin from 2010 America The Beautiful Set. That bothers me the others are beautiful and have that wonderful finish thanks PCGS. Thanks for your journal.

On 6/13/2019 at 7:23 AM, rons said:

I think the mint is getting desperate and this just another gimmick. Think of all the gimmicks they have introduced in the last ten years or so. Reverse proof, sms, burnished, convex, and now W coins for general circulation. We are all addicted so we aren't the target  Except for those of us with OCD who have to have one of everything the mint releases. Fortunately I have overcome that compulsion since retirement ^__^   The selling of many of the "must haves" in my collection have shown me the error of my ways. Be patient and the right coin will find you, maybe not on your schedule but it is out there. Happy Hunting

I believe they did all this because Coin World reported that collectors have dropped over five percent in the last year. That's a big loss in money. So they came out with these gimmicks and they tell flat. Thanks. 

21 hours ago, Mokiechan said:

I think the release of W quarters during 2019 is a well meaning attempt to interest the general population in coins and collecting.  I do not think it will be successful in gaining any significant number of new collectors.  But us current collectors can revel in the hunt, knowing that most of those W quarters will pass through many unknowing hands until they finally reach ours. All my change goes into a coffee mug, once it has been examined, the full mug usually yields 30.00 plus in Amazon cert at the coinstar machine.  These  W quarters, due to similar kinds of saving, will trickle out into the economy over years.  The only one I really want to find is the yet to be released San Antonio Quarter, I love the design and I would be thrilled if a W of that type fell into my hot little hands. 

Thanks for your opinion my friend. I agree the population knows nothing and were not told good anything. In my blog  I said what you said.Over the years we will find them. What a waste of our ten million dollars. They could of given it to me. Take care

I like the Franklin Series. I have almost all but none of mine are toned. I'm not a fan of it. I get my coins weigh them buy from my friends who are sellers. Now I know your not going to believe this but in twenty five years I never , never had a coin tone on me. I don't know why. One I like it if there lightly toned. I have thirty Morgan's nothing. I keep them in great protection. In also keep them in a safe maybe that's it. This one is not bad I like the blues in it and you can still see the details. Great coin I enjoyed it. Some day one will turn. Thanks for the great shot. Mike

I'm new to all this. I'm at the age were I just want to collect a few things. I put up two sets in the non competitive sets.. I have done this for twenty years it's been a long journey and they all start with the first step. I'm not taking steps anymore but I love the history I learned in college and what the coins and tokens taught me over the years.. I want to leave a legacy to my boys I have done that with some collections  we all want to leave something for our daughters and sons. I have done that. Yes I stopped collecting about a year now I miss it terribly. The coins ,tokens the collectors the friends. This hobby has taught me character and respect. I will keep in going the way I am. It's been a lifeline for me some of you will know what I mean. If I had to do all over again I would do it the same way. Why simply because it only helped me this way. There is no other way. I'm grateful to all my friends and fellow collectors . You guys and gals are the best. I have slowed down because of illness but just that slowed downown. I still learn everyday. Nothing wrong with that. I will increase my activity in this site. Because this is were I belong. Coins and tokens. Keep collecting and keep learning. Thanks everyone. Mike

That's the way to do it. Congratulations and enjoy them. They will give you great enjoyment!! Mike

That's a great looking boy. Good for you. Mine are all grown up and I miss those days. Don't forget them they go by fast. It seems one minute I was holding them then they were gone. We're proud you be be also. Keep on him he will be a great collector someday. Thanks for the memories.Mike

I just picked up a 1609. Try called Jetsons or tokens tofay. Mine is Elizabeth and Albert. It will be going in soon. I hope I do well. I think in will  It's in terrific shape. Keeping my fingers crossed. Thanks for putting yours up. Mike

On 5/13/2019 at 6:11 AM, gtw-123 said:

Great looking coin. 

Your photograph is better than the one on NGC. Coin looks like it is about the size of a 50-cent piece. Nice. 

 

 

On 5/12/2019 at 3:53 PM, Numismatic, A.A.S. said:

I remember some auctions back in 2006-2008 had some really rare high quality ones...

Anyway, there was one that CRO had they bought back, it was in Newman's collection I thought? 

 

I haven't made them a priority....

You would be surprised how many are collected for value. Hundreds. A George Washington MS 61 sold for 21,000. I won't mention the one one in MS 66. Even the Handle reverse by Kempson £ 600 in England here there just learning the prices. Go to eBay and search Kempson tokens or a few auction houses. Out of my league unless inseam one by in a large auction. So many do collect them for value. Thanks. Mike

On 5/11/2019 at 7:21 AM, MIKE BYRNE said:

That's were the mistake started. They used The red book not The book Conder collectors use and NGC. It doesn't belong in the red book. It was collected here never used for money never circulated that's from Q.David Bowers. So why is it there. I have no idea I think they needed to fill space. It has none of the information we need to reference it. Read my updates maybe you will get a better idea how important Chris information is. The red book doesn't even say we're in England jigsaw made of who commissioned it. Why it was made. Th e difference in rarity. The one with edge writing is worth thousands.. But The red book does not tell you that. So I went to the net. One dealer has it made in Philadelphia. This is why it has to be removed. Thanks Mike.

I think they all do that it doesn't sell so they raise the item and shipping saying you missed out. One out buy that type selling. I would of passed it up. Mike

On 5/17/2019 at 10:45 AM, Mokiechan said:

Yup, patience is the key, I have a Mercury and Roosevelt Dime in their aluminum holders, I am going to complete the set by getting the Merc and Rosie in the plastic World's Fair Holders.  There is a set on Ebay right now, but the Rosie one looks like a dog or cat chewed on the edges a bit, maybe even a teething ring?  Who knows, but it is thrashed.

By The way as of May 19 2019 my books are filled till next year. I will tell you the Kennedy' with the silver and silver proofs and the P&D those books like the nickels get very heavy. I checked the Kennedy's the prices have gone up again that's three years in a row.  Remember they all came from sets. That increase the value compared  to circulated coins. I need sun glasses when I open it. As good as Dansco is I wrap both books in bubble wrap. I keep them away from windows and heat. I do that with my books from cents on up to the V nickel to the Eisenhower. So enjoy your books. Mike.

It is simply a two ounce piece of bullion. That's all I would say. So weigh it and get The price of silver there your price. 

On 5/16/2019 at 11:31 AM, longstrider said:

"Pieces of art in copper and bronze." That is one of the best descriptions of these tokens that I have read. Both my wife and I have started collecting some modest ones. All we buy are from England. You are correct in that they sell the best..I have seen some other photos of the chest they were stored in. Works of art in beautiful wood.What a collection they would make.. It is sad that the graders here don't seem to understand how they should be graded and their D&H numbers as well as the writing on the edges. The wrong D&H number can mean a fortune. Thanks Mike. I always learn from you.

Thank you. I just don't buy these like a silver eagles. I have studied them. Books. The more you learn the more you have respect for it. I have learned about the making of the planchet or flan as they call it and yes the edge writing could mean thousand in value. It also determine rarity. If a token has D&H 703. That means one thing if it says 703a that means the edge writing is different and there could be maybe 100 or these increasing the value. So yes it's important P.C.G.S. Does not even start the edge writing on the label. N.G.C. does. But you need the book to get it all or if you hold it up to the light you can make it out. Now the book is free on line. The Token & Coinage of The 18th Century. By Dalton And Hammer. That's our bible. It's exactly like the book however it's not written like a current book you have to learn it. I'm here for any questions you may have. Thanks Mike.

This box was made here in the middle of the 19th century. The ones in England looked somewhat like this there were different versions. I don't have a picture of the inside . The ones from England i did see the inside. There was a whole that was made to fit the token. In the bottom they placed a felt like material and a cover on top. They were not treated like garbage this were expensive tokens the only thing in the basement was coal.. This box was placed away from heat and windows. Sometimes even faced  the wall.  This kept the elements out the best they could. That's why you have them red brown and no scratches and proof like. Graders know none of this and take it out on the token. That's so wrong. If they knew they would respect them like any other coin or token in the hobby. People who have personal feelings about them should not be grading them. I'm sorry but that is a fact. The more you know about the token the better respect they should get. Thank you. This picture came out of the 2020 Mega Red. I received it yesterday.May 15. Enjoy. Mike.

The reason allot of people do not collect these are very easy. First they have no idea of the value. Forty dollars for circulated ones hundreds and into the tens of thousands for some some two thousand and one thousand . Second Americans want value they don't see it they don't buy it. Three the workmanship is superb for there and some.look like the came off the die. Third we don't believe in slabing. The ones I have slabed are for one reason so they will keep there color and I want these slabed for protection. If NGC didn't put a grade on it they would make a fortune. The ones I collect came from professional collectors. Yes they had them back there. Some.have not seen the light of day in a hundred years when they pass the families sold them to auction houses into the vault they went. That's why I like them. Mike

On 4/22/2019 at 12:46 AM, Just Bob said:

I second that. That is a real looker.

I just picked one up from 1609 it's from the beginning of the truce. It's a great coin when I get it I will put it up. Same color as yours but the obverse and reverse are different. They are nice tokens. The County of Flanders. The Spanish Netherlands. I found pictures of these coins and I posted mine. My opinion is they robbed you. This is something from the 14 century. Now I have a 93% grading rate. Can't tell from a picture but this is in my opinion it's a MS 64. Not based on how old it is but the condition. The grader should look so good being 600 years old. 

We have to accept the fact that we are human. And that we are imperfect. That's the whole ball of wax. I made.a.mistake once I thinnk.Haha.

Newman did own some Conder tokens I saw one with his label it was the Franklin Pres. He never collected medals fr

On 5/12/2019 at 3:53 PM, Numismatic, A.A.S. said:

I remember some auctions back in 2006-2008 had some really rare high quality ones...

Anyway, there was one that CRO had they bought back, it was in Newman's collection I thought? 

 

I haven't made them a priority....

Mr. Newman did have some in his collextion. In saw one with his label it was the Franklin Press. He never collected medals.I have herd. There quality is still out there I just received some tokens back 64 to 66. There sold at auction not ebay. Thanks Mike

1 hour ago, Mokiechan said:

I can only speculate.  The British were into coin collecting much earlier than us, here in the Colonies.  Perhaps some upper class Brits put them away in their cabinet when first manufactured, so they are near perfect for you to collect today.  Maybe the mint employees also took great pride in producing these wonderful tokens and that might have also made them especially well made from the onset.  The important thing, you have protected a piece of important British history and for that you should be commended.

Hi my friend. That's what I said. These were high end die sinkers and the ones I buy were already preserved in those tightly sealed wooden boxes. Then they were given to the auctioneer some never saw the light of day for over a hundred years sitting in felt and covered the ones how to take care of these simply by the quality the detail. Then some collectors would come over your house and look at them no hands some were sold the rest out back and naively sealed . That's why there are MS 67 out there after 240 years. We can't get modern cents to grade that well. So my hat goes of to citizenship took care of them for us. That MS I just got back you can count the bricks the Windows everything. Compare them to the pictures today. Remember it was built in 1506 and even after renovations they look the same. Thanks my friend.

On 5/12/2019 at 11:25 AM, Numismatic, A.A.S. said:

Sweet!! How they were taken care of? We're most in Seriously Early collections or Hoards found? The English and them being proud of their s right? 

Are they're any condor token errors? Different from off center or thick thin planchet? 

 

 

 

Hi.. No there are no varieties in ancients old times the machines were steam presses so if there was and there are many they are not taken in to consideration. The planchects were different size some thin some thick. Most are bronze but they don't give me that option on the Registry. There are no hoards of these found these were collected. Some were used to purchase items so those have a lot of were on them. Thanks mike

I don't want to change grading standards.face it every company in the United States makes a mistake. All I want is were it was made and the reference number. Because it's in the red book doesn't make this label right. It doesn't belong in the red book. This is a collectors item. Not coinage never used as such. So through out all the right books and include every token that made it to the U.S. Put one in our all of them all in. It's a collectors item nothing else like every other Conder token. We will end this so everyone comes out with resoect.  Thanks Mike

2 minutes ago, longstrider said:

Good luck on your future quest. It can take quite a lot for a company to change it's mistakes. Let us know what is happening..

I will keep you all uodated. I have already got some of the smile of authors that I need. From there I can't divulge my plans. But some are in place. I'm a fighter I believe a wrong should be writed . This error no long how.It takes will be fixed. The last one took three months this will be longer but McNeill be done with respect to Franklin NGC and the experts in the Conder industry. Thanks. Mike