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Is this a coin or a medal?

Augustus 70


A quick question for the community.  Would you consider the Royal Dutch Mint’s restrikes of the silver daalders to be coins or medals.  They bear a date and are struck by the Nederlandse Munt, and are commemoratives of the original daalders/ducat/ducaton.  NGC appears to recognize it as a ‘daalder’ or ‘dollar’ coin, but it doesn’t have an assigned Euro denomination.  So is it a medal then?   Thanks in advance.




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You probably don't want to hear my opinion because I don't consider any mint issue that wasn't intended for actual circulation (or proof strike made during the production of a coin intended for circulation) to be a coin.  Restrikes, replicas and non-circulating commemoratives all fall into the non-coin category for me.  There are, of course, official definitions for coins but I think these just serve the mints that make money by repackaging bullion for collectors and the TPGs that make money grading these things.

I don't collect medals but I imagine they have a definition that doesn't automatically include non-coins.  That place in-between coins and medals I just call "tokens".


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I'm sorry if my post seems too critical.  I own some modern commemoratives too and realize that it's a popular collecting area.  Let me just close by saying that actual daalders from the 16th and 17th centuries are not difficult to find.

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I  would actually not even consider this a coin or a medal.  It is simply a 2 ounce bullion piece with an attractive retro design.  As JGENN stated, actual Lion Dollars are plentiful, and have historic and monetary integrity. 

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The label states exactly what it is.  It's a Piefort!  Or more correctly, it's a Piedfort.

A good description of what a peidfort is can be found here: Piedfort Coins - Heavyweight Coin Collecting.

Piedforts are essentially an extra thick example (generally twice as thick) of a coin intended for circulation.  Much like the U.S. Silver Eagle silver bullion coin, the Royal Dutch mint also issues a once ounce silver bullion coin utilizing the same design found on this piedfort. Although never struck, the U.S. equivalent would be a 2 oz. U.S. Silver Eagle piedfort.

It doesn't call my name, but it is a piedfort (or piefort if you prefer the misspelling) of an official Royal Dutch mint issued one oz. silver bullion coin.

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It is simply a two ounce piece of bullion. That's all I would say. So weigh it and get The price of silver there your price. 

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